Pro tip: don't buy the new versions "Nokia 3210 2024" and similar models.
I did, two times, with slightly different models, and they are of exceptionally poor quality: dead after one year, very buggy firmware. The customer support is an AI with no real answer. They recommended to install an app "from the Google Play app store" which is nonsense for a dumbphone.
They are very cheap noname phones, branded with the name Nokia, but I am sure no Nokia R&D team was involved in these products.
They clearly don't have the old code base, workforce to hypothetically adapt it to VoLTE, or factories to manufacture the phones. New Nokia TA-xxxx phones use MediaTek/Unisoc(Spreadtrum) SoC and MediaTek MAUI software rebranded as "S30+". Which means those are reskinned Chinese phones.
Old Nokia had RM-xxx or RX-xxx model numbers, so it's also clear that some of their corpo structure did survive.
> They are very cheap noname phones, branded with the name Nokia
I thought only HMD [0] had the right to put the Nokia brand on a phone, and had several former Nokia executives in their leadership able to validate whether a device is "worthy" of that brand. Which made sense since Nokia as a company and brand still exist albeit in a different field, and junk branded with this name can tarnish the image.
Edit. I see HMD may transition away from the Nokia brand. [1]
i can confirm.
I have bought and used both Nokia 2660 Flip and Nokia 8210 4G , both are HMD rebrands.
Firmware is very buggy and battery failed after less than 2y .
I tried a Nokia-in-name-only modern dumbphone (a compact one without the retro styling), and it did what I needed, which was mainly SMS 2FA.
Until a manager for a tempting job wanted to do the first call on the phone. The call quality was so bad, it bombed the interview for me. So I kissed my privacy goodbye, and bought an iPhone.
(I've since switched to a GrapheneOS phone, which works well, with less violating.)
> While the Memes generally refer to the 3210 or the 3310, the classic 5110 is no less a condender for most robust general use mobile phone available.
The reason for that (I think) is not that the 5110 is less robust, but that the 3210 and 3310 were much more widespread - they came onto the market when mobile phones really started to become widespread, while the 5110 (their predecessor), with its stub antenna and bulkier size, looks a bit like the last representative of the previous era...
Totally! When I got my Nokia 5146 (still basically a 5110) - you had to pay I think £50 for the phone, plus the contract of £15 a month.
A month or two later you could get the 3210 for free, plus a better contract from orange, that took advantage of the MMS options - plus had the programmable ringtones which was soooooo much cooler than the 5110.
I was lucky to jump from the 5110 to the 8210, and then to a 8250 which I adored and used on an off through to 2007 - when I moved to the E61 then e71 - which both still hold a very special place in my heart!
At the height of Nokia, nearly half of all cell phones worldwide was Nokia phones with 3210 and 3310 being the most popular models by far.
With stats like that, it is no wonder that Nokia leadership thought they had cell phones figured out and ended up completely oblivious to the challenge the iPhone presented.
I'm not too well-versed in hardware - is it really that easy to swap out a 2G modem with a 4G modem and have it "just work" without touching the drivers? Even if the baseband/modem chips miraculously do conform perfectly to some I/O protocol at the hardware level despite being multiple generations apart, wouldn't the difference in timings break whatever firmware the Nokia 5110 has, which was expecting only a single very specific hardware configuration? Or is the author planning to also hack the drivers?
These phones didn't have the modern smartphone architecture where there are separate CPU cores for the user OS and the modem. It's one single CPU core that does both the UI and all the low-level stuff required for communication with the tower. They were going to replace the board that contains that CPU and all the radio circuitry with one they were going to design from scratch around that 4G module.
No, it's like reusing keyboard and monitor for a new PC. This phone uses those parts fully separated from the computer part that the author argues it should be possible to remake just the host computer part to recreate the experience.
4G doesn't even have a proper voice call support, and substitutes that with a carrier grade Discord type thing called VoLTE(oversimplification). Zero chance old firmware could work.
No. This phones keypad , controller, and screen are on a separate board.
This would be like plugging your monitor and keyboard into a new computer.
There are some lorawan handheld communicatiors using surplus blackberry cases and keyboards from blackberries that never were, that they got for pennies.
Except this dude wants to drop in a roll-your-own cellphone board with a basic os, instead of a lorawan radio and basic os. Same idea. But he will have to design this.
Whereas You can get schematics to build a lorawan communicator with blackberry parts, and there are community supported roms for that
As a sibling says, this likely won't work for a Nokia feature phone, because it's an integrated design and there's no separate modem.
For a design with a modem module and a ux module, it might possibly just work to swap things out, but it would depend on how VoLTE is supported. If that is all managed by the modem module, then you're probably good.
These modem modules are generally a serial port that speaks Hayes (AT) protocol. Plus some analog lines for mic and speaker. Some 4g modules might be serial over USB and may leave VoLTE entirely up to the application module, that's going go look different.
Some of the modules are a qualcom SoC that runs headless Android. Which works, I guess, but seems bizarre.
Given the lack of a Part 2, I'm guessing some of the optimism in the article about how easy it would be was misplaced. I know very little about this stuff but presumably he would need to write some code for the SIM7600SA that would allow it to interface seamlessly with the UI board, which sounds far from trivial (unless maybe the UI board is very well documented)?
What I learned with this article is the English idiom:
"Don’t count your chickens before they’re hatched."
Which in my language translates to:
"You should not sell the bear’s skin before killing it."
Not that it appears in the article, but rather because the author wrote the blog post before doing the thing. Which results in a blog post essentially saying "here is the cool thing I plan to do", which was apparently never done.
Anyway, I'm happy to know about counting chickens now :-).
It's possible the author didn't expect to have a few thousand Hacker Nerds looking at their blog post already, with all the critique and pressure that entails.
It's more gruesome about the chicken. These are also said to be counted in fall. It's not just about hatching (in summer), but rather about surviving till fall...
The original Nokia 5110 obviously lived long, probably still is there in author's drawer in some disassembled state.
HMD (Human Mobile Devices)[0] has exclusive rights to produce phones under the Nokia brand.
Now, HMD has decided to drop the Nokia name from the new phones because it's not helping them. Nokia has lost its glory, and HMD took the right step to use its name.
People who have old Nokia phones should keep them as it is like a lost meaningful art.
> i will simply be able to recreate the baseboard with the new 4G module, a microcontroller, and some audio processing and power management circuitry and it will be able to seamlessly fit inside the phone.
Seems like a bigger project than the author would let us think ! But I hope to see the PCB soon !
Well, I wouldn't call it trivial, but it's not completely outlandish idea. There is prior art in this Ringo kit, which does almost 90% of what's required here: https://github.com/CircuitMess/CircuitMess-Ringo
Are there any not outrageously expensive, tough, battery-goes-for-weeks, does calls and SMS and wifi hotspot and maybe even F-Droid but a small screen, and maybe has at least LTE so that it is safe to be used for years, type devices?
I've looked once or twice, and found two categories: one was expensive phones leaning in to the "super slick minimalist" thing, which looked like they could be good devices and cover what I'm looking for, but again, 300 dollars or more type range.
The other was remakes of the "old classics", which were cheap, and claimed to cover roughly what I was hoping for, but are actually horrible quality, as another commenter said.
Maybe there's no solution, and those expensive ones are the only good option. Exceptions, or surprises, please throw them at me!
It won't go for weeks, but days, and it takes some sideloading and finagling to get certain apk's to work, but I use a Sonim XP3+.
Runs Android Go, big battery that lasts a while, I can use Signal Messenger on it (though not super well), and it's tank-like in its construction. If you want to take that up a notch in terms of build quality, Kyocera sells a similar phone, the Dura XV Extreme+, which is roughly $250.
r/dumbphones is a decent resource. Unsuprisingly, it's not a large community, but it's a good place to get people's anecdotes about specific models.
Yeah, look at the Sonim XP3+/XP5+ (depending if you want a flip phone or candybar).
Rugged, Android-Go powered "Call/SMS/MMS" devices, week and a half on battery if you leave it on constantly, hotspot, and you can, if you insist, sideload apps. Just, don't expect any modern Android app to be usable on a 240x320 screen with keyboard input only. If you use a Bluetooth mouse, it's marginally less-awful, but still, don't expect much to work.
I did get KDE Connect working - that allows you to send text messages with a real computer keyboard. It's not as nicely integrated as the Apple iMessage ecosystem, but it does allow for sending texts without having to T9 the whole thing. Alternately, the better option is to just move longer conversations to email or an actual phone call.
One of these shouldn't run you much over about $150 (in the US), and they work fine on the super cheap MVNO operators out there.
> The Nokia 5110 is a 2G telephone, meaning it uses the original 2G mobile network to communicate. This network has long been decommissioned in most western countries, including Australia.
In Europe, 3G is shutting down, but 2G as a fallback seems to be staying for years to come.
> However, 2G networks were still available as of 2023 in most parts of the world, while notably excluding the majority of carriers in North America, East Asia, and Australasia.
> AFAIK, in the US, T-Mobile still has a 2G network.
They do but most won't be able to use a phone this old on it. Reason being the SIM application was taken out of the issued sim cards years ago for T-Mobile (something like 6 years or so at this point). Newer 3G-era cellphones use the USIM application and can fall back to the 2G network.
So the only way to still use a device that's pre-3G (circa-2007 or so) on the 2G network is to have a SIM that's been activated the whole time. T-Mobile will not activate expired SIM cards that still contain the application.
Source: I have used back to the Sony Ericsson t68i this past summer on T-Mobile. If you have an ancient SIM and want to browse WAP 1.x as well you can use this site for the gateway: https://nbpfan.bs0dd.net/index.php?lang=eng&page=wap%2Fmain
EDIT: Funny thing about 3G-era phone support, you can use a euicc (removable ESIM) on a phone from 2007 (I used Sony Ericsson K850i) and it will work just fine with an activated esim to access 2G.
I am forever horrified when my 5G phone, which at my house already only gets 4G at best (the politics of cell towers in Southern England is just a sad sad story) drops now to 2G!!! Dropping a modern smartphone to 2G is like basically saying "no network". The only things I use it for are unusable. I rarely make calls. I rarely send SMS. Vodafone dropped 3G, O2 will drop it early next year and the others some time soonish too. Using a smart phone in a rural area now kind of feels like going back to 2007 if I am going to be honest.
2G is still strong in Germany as some industrial applications rely on it. It is not going to be deprecated any time soon. Maybe once they run out of spare parts.
Germany's mobile network is worse than most third world countries. Working on a train? No internet for you! Going a few meters outside a settlement? Might not even be able to do calls.
Correct. I still use my Nokia 6030 2G phone with T-Mobile in Minnesota/Wisconsin. And it's battery still lasts a week and I can't even feel it in my pocket it's so small. Impossible to destroy too; I've used roughly it since ~2008.
My old Nokia 6310i from 2003 was in use until a year or two ago with my mother in law. And with the original battery lasting for days! Then finally on/off button broke. While nowadays phones not only have a glass in the front, which is understandable, but in the back too. So fragile. What would grandpa Nokia say to his ancestors?
I had this phone, sometimes from boredom I was tossing and catching it and it occasionally fell on the ground. Try doing this with these miserable fragile iPhones and Galaxies. Unfortunately one day it cracked while falling and I regret so much throwing it, the 6310i would have been working until today.
The Quectel BG95 is a similar modem chip. If you want to add low-bandwidth connectivity in a project you can just get a BG95 or this Simcom as a devkit and e.g. a 1NCE SIM card, hook up the UART pins to your microcontroller and you're off to go. (You may need a logic level converter in between)
It's a shame that even if OP did complete this project the phone would likely not work in Australia where their based post 3G shutdown! The government mandates that telcos block all phones that cannot make VoLTE emergency calls, and instead of figuring out how to do this, the telcos maintain a whitelist of phones. This has led to a large amount of even modern 4G & 5G phones getting bricked[^1].
Some say this brave adventurer met his end when the 5110 fought back against the insult to its sacred internals.
Others say bestowing the power of 4G on a device as formidable as the 5110 opened a portal to realms hitherto unknown, to which our hero travelled, and we'll meet him again someday.
But my guess? He's still out there, trying to make the dream of a 4G-enabled 5110 a reality. And I still have hope for a "Part 2".
5110 was fantastic. I did not realize this before, but about 10 years ago needed a replacement phone quickly and had an old 5110 in storage. Charged up, powered up, switched on and in less than 10 seconds could make a call. Fantastic booting speed, very fast phone.
It's such an odd problem from my perspective as someone who doesn't live in a western country! We still have 2G on all carriers and seemingly no plans to shut it down. So, if you want to use an old (GSM) phone, it's a non-issue, you just pop your modern SIM card into it and it just works :)
In my country (Poland) a bunch of networks recently switched off 3G and a lot of 4G services in favour of LTE only... A pretty good mobile service I enjoyed at my country home for over a decade had suddenly turned to crap... (at least I have faster Internet access now, but I can't strap a directional antenna to a mobile phone).
Well good news for you – Nokia still sells plenty of these kinds of phones (just not in the USA). It’ll be pretty easy to import them from a developing market, on eBay or elsewhere. E.g. see https://www.amazon.in/s?k=nokia
I know the 5110 is one of the unbreakable OG’s but I’d much rather see 6210/6310 brought back to life. That phone looks cool even for 2024 and the ergonomic design is still usable. 5110 was so bulky!
I think that you would still end up with the inferior battery life of 4G. That was the killer feature of those phones. Our technology seems to have degraded in that regard over the years.
4G drain faster our batteries but we also now download multiple orders of magnitude more data than we used to with the 5110 (I count voice call as "data"). Videos and advertisements being the usual suspects…
Battery would probably last a lot more if I only play snakes and use the phone app.
I recenly bought a Nokia 6300, not as a main mobile phone but because it includes Tethering, it is very light, changeable battery, practical as a mobile hotspot. It also has WhatsApp though.
The 5110 was also my first phone and still probably my favourite ever. I racked up a £300 bill on month 1 and had to essentially do my paper round for free to pay it off. Good times!
around the same time that the original 5110 was getting popular, I bought my first mobile phone, a used Motorola Amio.
It was quite big, with big buttons, and looked somewhat like a walkie talkie. I liked it and used it for about a year, before I got another make of phone.
I searched and found some images that look something like it:
I remember that Motorola, I was opening a student bank account and they offered a free 3 year student railcard (to buy discount tickets), a camera or that motorola - I was just about to get it when the lack of Snake and also the pretty poor contract it came on made me jump for the Railcard.
But still felt wild at the time that they were 'giving away' a mobile phone.
Sorry for tangent but any recommendations for small smart phone (i.e. <6" screen)?
I like my iPhone 12 mini with its 5" screen (though it is glitchier than one would hope) but now all phones seem to be 6"+ which is hard to fit into a pocket or even manipulate with one hand.
I know the Samsung ZFlip 6 and Motorola Razr+ are small, though rather pricey at $800-1000. Any opinions from folks on reliability/usability etc of these?
I am embarrassed to say I have some Apple lock-in with earbuds and even basic conveniences like "find-my" working for my children's watches so not sure if these are worth staying with Apple for, even if I dislike their latest devices.
It was really not a great phone. It was a really quirky combo of an organiser and a phone that didn't have much of a coupling between them. The keyboard was heavy to press and useless to type more than a line or two.
josephernest|1 year ago
They are very cheap noname phones, branded with the name Nokia, but I am sure no Nokia R&D team was involved in these products.
numpad0|1 year ago
Old Nokia had RM-xxx or RX-xxx model numbers, so it's also clear that some of their corpo structure did survive.
close04|1 year ago
I thought only HMD [0] had the right to put the Nokia brand on a phone, and had several former Nokia executives in their leadership able to validate whether a device is "worthy" of that brand. Which made sense since Nokia as a company and brand still exist albeit in a different field, and junk branded with this name can tarnish the image.
Edit. I see HMD may transition away from the Nokia brand. [1]
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMD_Global#:~:text=The%20compa....
[1] https://www.gsmarena.com/hmd_is_dropping_its_nokia_branding_...
jcul|1 year ago
After probably a month or so the hinge brackets broke from normal use.
Nokia refused to refund / repair it saying that only a drop could have caused it.
I replaced it with an AGM M8 which is a great dumbphone.
Piraty|1 year ago
neilv|1 year ago
Until a manager for a tempting job wanted to do the first call on the phone. The call quality was so bad, it bombed the interview for me. So I kissed my privacy goodbye, and bought an iPhone.
(I've since switched to a GrapheneOS phone, which works well, with less violating.)
Paianni|1 year ago
secondcoming|1 year ago
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alnwlsn|1 year ago
I guess part 2 was left as an exercise for the reader.
Double_a_92|1 year ago
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nuker|1 year ago
rob74|1 year ago
The reason for that (I think) is not that the 5110 is less robust, but that the 3210 and 3310 were much more widespread - they came onto the market when mobile phones really started to become widespread, while the 5110 (their predecessor), with its stub antenna and bulkier size, looks a bit like the last representative of the previous era...
ljf|1 year ago
A month or two later you could get the 3210 for free, plus a better contract from orange, that took advantage of the MMS options - plus had the programmable ringtones which was soooooo much cooler than the 5110.
I was lucky to jump from the 5110 to the 8210, and then to a 8250 which I adored and used on an off through to 2007 - when I moved to the E61 then e71 - which both still hold a very special place in my heart!
wodenokoto|1 year ago
With stats like that, it is no wonder that Nokia leadership thought they had cell phones figured out and ended up completely oblivious to the challenge the iPhone presented.
2Gkashmiri|1 year ago
Was a joy to use the joystick hehe
apetresc|1 year ago
grishka|1 year ago
numpad0|1 year ago
4G doesn't even have a proper voice call support, and substitutes that with a carrier grade Discord type thing called VoLTE(oversimplification). Zero chance old firmware could work.
amyames|1 year ago
This would be like plugging your monitor and keyboard into a new computer.
There are some lorawan handheld communicatiors using surplus blackberry cases and keyboards from blackberries that never were, that they got for pennies.
Except this dude wants to drop in a roll-your-own cellphone board with a basic os, instead of a lorawan radio and basic os. Same idea. But he will have to design this.
Whereas You can get schematics to build a lorawan communicator with blackberry parts, and there are community supported roms for that
Double_a_92|1 year ago
toast0|1 year ago
For a design with a modem module and a ux module, it might possibly just work to swap things out, but it would depend on how VoLTE is supported. If that is all managed by the modem module, then you're probably good.
These modem modules are generally a serial port that speaks Hayes (AT) protocol. Plus some analog lines for mic and speaker. Some 4g modules might be serial over USB and may leave VoLTE entirely up to the application module, that's going go look different.
Some of the modules are a qualcom SoC that runs headless Android. Which works, I guess, but seems bizarre.
guerrilla|1 year ago
NoboruWataya|1 year ago
palata|1 year ago
"Don’t count your chickens before they’re hatched."
Which in my language translates to:
"You should not sell the bear’s skin before killing it."
Not that it appears in the article, but rather because the author wrote the blog post before doing the thing. Which results in a blog post essentially saying "here is the cool thing I plan to do", which was apparently never done.
Anyway, I'm happy to know about counting chickens now :-).
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grishka|1 year ago
zoomablemind|1 year ago
The original Nokia 5110 obviously lived long, probably still is there in author's drawer in some disassembled state.
notRobot|1 year ago
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shahzaibmushtaq|1 year ago
Now, HMD has decided to drop the Nokia name from the new phones because it's not helping them. Nokia has lost its glory, and HMD took the right step to use its name.
People who have old Nokia phones should keep them as it is like a lost meaningful art.
[0] https://www.hmd.com
j_leboulanger|1 year ago
I like the word "simply" in this sentence
> i will simply be able to recreate the baseboard with the new 4G module, a microcontroller, and some audio processing and power management circuitry and it will be able to seamlessly fit inside the phone.
Seems like a bigger project than the author would let us think ! But I hope to see the PCB soon !
trymas|1 year ago
zokier|1 year ago
sourcepluck|1 year ago
I've looked once or twice, and found two categories: one was expensive phones leaning in to the "super slick minimalist" thing, which looked like they could be good devices and cover what I'm looking for, but again, 300 dollars or more type range.
The other was remakes of the "old classics", which were cheap, and claimed to cover roughly what I was hoping for, but are actually horrible quality, as another commenter said.
Maybe there's no solution, and those expensive ones are the only good option. Exceptions, or surprises, please throw them at me!
asdem1|1 year ago
Runs Android Go, big battery that lasts a while, I can use Signal Messenger on it (though not super well), and it's tank-like in its construction. If you want to take that up a notch in terms of build quality, Kyocera sells a similar phone, the Dura XV Extreme+, which is roughly $250.
r/dumbphones is a decent resource. Unsuprisingly, it's not a large community, but it's a good place to get people's anecdotes about specific models.
Syonyk|1 year ago
Rugged, Android-Go powered "Call/SMS/MMS" devices, week and a half on battery if you leave it on constantly, hotspot, and you can, if you insist, sideload apps. Just, don't expect any modern Android app to be usable on a 240x320 screen with keyboard input only. If you use a Bluetooth mouse, it's marginally less-awful, but still, don't expect much to work.
I did get KDE Connect working - that allows you to send text messages with a real computer keyboard. It's not as nicely integrated as the Apple iMessage ecosystem, but it does allow for sending texts without having to T9 the whole thing. Alternately, the better option is to just move longer conversations to email or an actual phone call.
One of these shouldn't run you much over about $150 (in the US), and they work fine on the super cheap MVNO operators out there.
My writeup from about a year ago: https://www.sevarg.net/2023/12/30/more-flip-phone-sonim-xp3-...
hackertux|1 year ago
rbanffy|1 year ago
Although I also loved the sound of that little engine.
michalhosna|1 year ago
In Europe, 3G is shutting down, but 2G as a fallback seems to be staying for years to come.
> However, 2G networks were still available as of 2023 in most parts of the world, while notably excluding the majority of carriers in North America, East Asia, and Australasia.
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2G
AFAIK, in the US, T-Mobile still has a 2G network.
lotsofpulp|1 year ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/dumbphones/comments/1eppo3p/tmobile...
https://imgur.com/a/Zg6XYch
https://www.t-mobile.com/support/coverage/t-mobile-network-e...
>Capacity and coverage of T-Mobile's 2G (GSM) network is expected to change starting as early as September 1, 2024.
joecool1029|1 year ago
They do but most won't be able to use a phone this old on it. Reason being the SIM application was taken out of the issued sim cards years ago for T-Mobile (something like 6 years or so at this point). Newer 3G-era cellphones use the USIM application and can fall back to the 2G network.
So the only way to still use a device that's pre-3G (circa-2007 or so) on the 2G network is to have a SIM that's been activated the whole time. T-Mobile will not activate expired SIM cards that still contain the application.
Source: I have used back to the Sony Ericsson t68i this past summer on T-Mobile. If you have an ancient SIM and want to browse WAP 1.x as well you can use this site for the gateway: https://nbpfan.bs0dd.net/index.php?lang=eng&page=wap%2Fmain
EDIT: Funny thing about 3G-era phone support, you can use a euicc (removable ESIM) on a phone from 2007 (I used Sony Ericsson K850i) and it will work just fine with an activated esim to access 2G.
memsom|1 year ago
cardanome|1 year ago
Germany's mobile network is worse than most third world countries. Working on a train? No internet for you! Going a few meters outside a settlement? Might not even be able to do calls.
superkuh|1 year ago
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walterbell|1 year ago
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/_YF5WDLLK2nA/RhE6QSReO7I/AAAAAAAAB...
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/_YF5WDLLK2nA/RhE44SReO6I/AAAAAAAAB...
Disassembly video (2019), https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdhlOlx2gxY
Schematics: https://www.nodevice.com/service-manuals/telephone/nokia/611...
pfych|1 year ago
[^1]: https://medium.com/@jamesdwho/australias-3g-shutdown-why-you...
rtchau|1 year ago
Others say bestowing the power of 4G on a device as formidable as the 5110 opened a portal to realms hitherto unknown, to which our hero travelled, and we'll meet him again someday.
But my guess? He's still out there, trying to make the dream of a 4G-enabled 5110 a reality. And I still have hope for a "Part 2".
klauswunderlich|1 year ago
IndrekR|1 year ago
Found a video where the boot-up speed/usage are shown: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d40KwKvCGZo
grishka|1 year ago
Roark66|1 year ago
shitloadofbooks|1 year ago
The 3G shutdown was ...problematic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIJavqEzEIw
dclowd9901|1 year ago
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aziaziazi|1 year ago
Battery would probably last a lot more if I only play snakes and use the phone app.
haunter|1 year ago
wslh|1 year ago
rjsw|1 year ago
Not for much longer.
I also got a Nokia 6300 to use for tethering and it works well for that.
zoomablemind|1 year ago
Indeed, the announced Part 2 has not been linked so far...
m4tthumphrey|1 year ago
fuzztester|1 year ago
It was quite big, with big buttons, and looked somewhat like a walkie talkie. I liked it and used it for about a year, before I got another make of phone.
I searched and found some images that look something like it:
https://www.google.com/search?q=motorola+amio+phone
ljf|1 year ago
But still felt wild at the time that they were 'giving away' a mobile phone.
windex|1 year ago
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wkat4242|1 year ago
Here in Spain we still get the full set, 2G through 5G :)
amoorthy|1 year ago
I like my iPhone 12 mini with its 5" screen (though it is glitchier than one would hope) but now all phones seem to be 6"+ which is hard to fit into a pocket or even manipulate with one hand.
I know the Samsung ZFlip 6 and Motorola Razr+ are small, though rather pricey at $800-1000. Any opinions from folks on reliability/usability etc of these?
I am embarrassed to say I have some Apple lock-in with earbuds and even basic conveniences like "find-my" working for my children's watches so not sure if these are worth staying with Apple for, even if I dislike their latest devices.
insane_dreamer|1 year ago
wkat4242|1 year ago
It was really the worst of both worlds.
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