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EpicQuest_246 | 1 year ago

Yes. I remember seeing the statistic a number of years ago. I cannot find the source easily. The last time I checked was ~2018. I never claimed "daily raids on journalists". I did say "regularly", which is incorrect, I should have said "an alarming number of". But that if people are going to hold me up on that they are nitpicking.

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defrost|1 year ago

Try:

https://www.cps.gov.uk/publication/cps-data-summary-quarter-...

and: https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/criminal-court-stat...

In the UK there were 11,767 prosecutions (referred by police, whether or not a conviction was found) in the past year flagged as "Hate Crime" (the category that a speech prosecution would fall under?)

Of those many were robbery, homicide, assault, etc .. not simply "speech".

Here is a link to an online sevice to mount by URL those spreadsheets onine (showing the UK Prosecution Crime Type Data Tables Q4 23-24)

https://products.aspose.app/cells/viewer/view?FolderName=0f8...

"an alarming number of" is entirely relative to the population size and general referral levels, at seems unlikely that just pure "speech" alone and no other action forms 20% of the Hate Crime flagged prosecutions - that would take some legwork to verify I suspect.

EpicQuest_246|1 year ago

When I said “alarming number of” I was specifically referring to journalists being harassed by the UK state. I am aware of at least 3 or 4 this year.

Non-speech related offences I don’t care about in relation to this topic. I believe the 3000 a year number was banded about for speech offences. I do think it is likely that this number is roughly correct as it matches up with what I previously heard.

I btw believe one person being prosecuted for speech related offences is too many. IMO it shouldn’t happen at all.

Moreover I am quite tired of people telling me it isn’t happening after I can distinctly remember a large number of cases over the years where this does happen.