[kaelig]

Thank you for sharing — sounds like we've had different experiences but I can absolutely see how poorly implemented devops is worse than well-implemented ops.

I've written about operationalizing design and design/engineering collaboration for a while now, and work at a frontend cloud PaaS... So I appreciate hearing from folks outside of my own bubble!

The path from idea to production was arduous for frontend and design back in these days. I for one appreciate being able to deploy frontend changes to production in just a few minutes, which the cloud + SRE + DevOps mindsets have helped democratize.

[GiorgioG]

In your 'about', you have worked with/at well-respected tech companies. I suspect they had significant investment in their DevOps teams and that has not been my experience at large non-tech companies in my career. Our differing experiences make sense when thinking about it in that context.