[monsecchris]

It’s so insignificant that at best we might delay the climate catastrophe by a few seconds

[Xelbair]

People might not like this, but that's true.

as long as non-western countries keep polluting - even if we achieve net-zero nothing will change other than us feeling better and patting ourselves in the back.

[threeseed]

This is a very misguided view of the situation.

a) The transition to clean energy, transportation etc by Western countries funds the development and investment in new technologies. These then filter down to developing countries when the economies of scale kick in e.g. solar panels, electric cars.

b) There are also other benefits to cleaner solutions than just trying to achieve net-zero. Reductions in pollution reduce morbidity, improve productivity, improve happiness, secure food supply etc.

[fragmede]

Knocking the western 30% of pollution down to zero is still meaningful, even if the remaining 70% isn't affected (which it will be). China, one is the most polluting non-western countries, is going to renewables and electric vehicles at a faster rate than some of the western countries.

[greenavocado]

Drinking game. Drop Google Street View anywhere on the territory of India. If there is a trash pile visible, take a shot.

[fulafel]

And as long as oil producing countries (hello uk/us) keep pumping it out. We need intl agreements to ramp this down fast.

[beo35]

Per capita EU is a far bigger polluter than non developed countries.