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lkurtz | 1 year ago

Recommending (and running) `xattr -c` can be extremely dangerous. I would suggest withholding Mac releases until they can be distributed/run safely.

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josephcsible|1 year ago

That doesn't map to safety or danger at all. It's purely a way of opting out of the developer having to pay the Apple tax.

crazygringo|1 year ago

As someone not very familiar, is there any legitimate reason why they say "Our Apple signing/notarization is not entirely done yet"?

It feels extremely suspicious, given that I download lots of other popular utility software from independent devs and I've never had to do that before.

jeroenhd|1 year ago

As a platform that basically started as a way to watch Youtube without tracking and ads, I think Grayjay should be sceptical of any third party code signing validation requirements. The copyright lobby has gone after software and its distributors before, even if it doesn't inherently pirate any content without user configuration.

I don't know why this app would need Apple's signature in the first place, seeing as it's not distributed through the app store. Is this like how you need to pay for a certificate to make the "are you sure you want to run this" prompt look less scary?

lkurtz|1 year ago

There are a couple of legitimate reasons, namely the expense/KYC process of an Apple Developer Program membership and/or the complexity of integrating signing + notarization into existing build pipelines (but XCode does makes it pretty straightforward to cut an ad-hoc release that is signed and notarized).

In my opinion at least, the most likely reason is that Apple is refusing to notarize the software. If this is the case, people really should not be running it.

margana|1 year ago

Do you also suggest never releasing any software for Linux because there is no megacorporation there policing what software you should and shouldn't run?

kfajdsl|1 year ago

It's about as dangerous as running a Linux or Windows binary.