Lobste.rs/Hacker News links overlap

[marcus0x62]

I recognize several of the “unique to Lobsters” links as being on the HN front page over the past few days. E.g:

  https://www.fastmail.com/blog/why-we-use-our-own-hardware

  https://avi.im/blag/2024/sqlite-past-present-future

[wodenokoto]

Oh, man. Even the comments are overlapping!

[pinjasaur]

I like the visualization aspect. Curious how the data is being aggregated. Previously, I've used this as a source: https://gerikson.com/hnlo/

[tptacek]

A lot of these Lobster-specific links appear to be HN links, just a day or two delayed.

[whateveracct]

tech link aggregator trophic levels

[kelseyfrog]

There's some folks that farm lobste.rs -> HN. Actually just one in particular. They're now in the top10 using this strategy due to how effective it is.

[keyle]

I hope they automated it otherwise I feel sorry for them.

I'm yet to see the first karma ATM, where they can withdraw their karma and live a life well earnt!

[speckx]

This one? https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=todsacerdoti

[mooreds]

Yeah, I noticed that. I think he set up some automation for that.

I confess, I'll sometimes check out lobste.rs/recent and if there's anything interesting, pop over here to submit it.

Definitely substantial overlap in terms of posts that are interesting.

[not_your_mentat]

I have both in my RSS reader and use the intersection as heuristic signal for astroturfing. If it shows up twice exactly or as an obviously close match I know I can safely completely disregard.

[numa7numa7]

This is cool! is there a github?

[rvba]

Can someone be so kind to invite me to lobste.rs?

[geesawra]

Get onto the #lobsters irc channel on libera, hang out for a while and you eventually will get an invite

[iso8859-1]

can i see your github?

[OutOfHere]

I don't advise posting to Lobsters for these reasons:

1. The mods there can "steal" your post and any credit for it, reassigning its authorship to one of their friends. This happens more often than you would think.

2. The users there have a major case of groupthink, much worse than us here, considering they don't even allow outsiders to register it they're not recommended by someone on the inside. Inbred is the label that comes to mind.

3. The community hates AI, and will downvote any valid submission just to drag you down to the lowest denominator. If you too hate AI, maybe it is the place for you.

[Karrot_Kream]

I agree. I've been on Lobsters for a long time, and the changeover from jcs to pushcx in site ownership really changed the moderation philosophy to lean heavily on editorial control of the site's contents.

I think any community has the right to run itself how it wishes. My major frustration with Lobsters is that it doesn't call out this editorial philosophy. The UX of the site and its legacy under jcs often give the impression that it's like any other link aggregator, so I would appreciate if the guidelines clearly called out the editorial approach of moderation.

That said, I would not use the word "inbred" here. They can run their community how they like and and we can dislike it, but insulting another community is generally counterproductive and petty.

[sbuk]

> The users there have a major case of groupthink

Isn’t that a common feature of most forums? The orange site, in particular, isn’t generally regarded outside of its own bubble as a bastion of independent thought…

[linhns]

These are considered features of lobsters, since to even post there, you have to be invited.

[roryokane]

> 1. The mods there can "steal" your post and any credit for it, reassigning its authorship to one of their friends. This happens more often than you would think.

Really? As a Lobsters reader, I occasionally review the first page of the Lobsters Moderation Log, which is public for transparency’s sake: https://lobste.rs/moderations. And I’ve never seen any log about a story’s authorship being reassigned, whether for a good reason or a bad one.

According to my reading of the source code of Lobsters (https://github.com/lobsters/lobsters/blob/96cf0b32ee81bb1bd7...), such a change would be described in the Moderation Log as “changed user from the_original_user to another_user”. I just searched all moderation logs of story changes in the last two years (39 pages of logs), and no log contains the string “changed user from”. So whether “stealing” of posts ever happened, I don’t think Lobsters users have to worry about that happening now.

Or are you also accusing the mods of hiding those specific changes from the Moderation Log somehow?

[mooreds]

I was pretty active for a few years.

Posted one too many self-promotional posts (though still within the terms and on-topic for the community). About 5-10% of my posts that were self-promotional.

Got read the riot act by the moderator. Wrote him a note saying that part of why I participated in lobste.rs was to share others great stuff, but part was to share my own stuff too. And if that wasn't in keeping with the community he was building, I was out.

Have logged in exactly once since then (to invite someone).

[viraptor]

> The community hates AI, and will downvote any valid submission just to drag you down to the lowest denominator.

There's lots of links and decent comments on those: https://lobste.rs/t/ai

I wouldn't describe it as anything close to "hates".