[rpgwaiter]

Non-tesla infra has gotten a lot better over the past couple years, at least according to this one YouTube EV road trip I watched recently: https://youtu.be/ouPiwt5hxXQ

[0xbadcafebee]

My team was working with 2 non-tesla charging vendors this summer. Terrible, couldn't get them to work, waiting weeks for the vendors to fix their shit, no support, no documentation (seriously). It was like a college intern who went through a bootcamp tried to throw one together. Wouldn't trust them to make a USB charger.

[inemesitaffia]

Tesla now sells them.

And there's a new >800V+ cabinet

[sipjca]

It’s still not great. I drove I5 North for the holidays and at one stop there was an hour+ long wait at Electrify America. Only 3/4 stalls working and a queue 5 or 6 deep to charge. At the same stop there were 12+ Tesla chargers and no issue with wait and not fully occupied

[VBprogrammer]

I don't have an electric car (not against it in principle but waiting for the right time).

One thing that always bothers me is that, from what I've seen, queuing for charging seems to be based on coordination and trust between EV drivers. Surely it would make far more sense to have some kind of virtual queuing system built in. Then when a charger becomes free it automatically sends you an alert and gives you some period to connect to the charger.

Longer term, I would hope charging stations would be designed with a layout which lets cars queue sensibly.

[itsZero]

I'm curious if there's a reason why or how Tesla tend to build 10+ stations per location while EA/EVgo tend to only do 4 most of the time. I still need to wait a lot of times at EA/EVgo locations.

[r00fus]

EA is struggling with charger outages but they're improving. The real story is the L2 players providing a lot more L3 sites (EVgo, ChargePoint).