In Spain they soon will require V16 [0] too. Originally it was just a flashing light but then it was improved to use mobile networks to send an emergency call to authorities. And proving, that technically, it is possible to have something like ECall without deep integration into the car.
No need of having always on connection to the network, enable on emergencies only. Thus no remote hacking of SIM/base band possible at random times, or broadcasting presence until used. Mechanic or user can check battery periodically, replace if low, just like refilling wiper fluid. Car could even cut all other electric systems after deploying the integrated autonomous V16-like system.
Car manufacturers deciding to make their ECall implementations complex and privacy invading was their choice.
Just enable it by default and put a warning in big red letters that disabling the cellular modem will also disable the ECall system, which may mean you might not get the emergency assistance you need and therefore die.
That shouldn't have to be linked. You should be able to turn off manufacturer telemetry while keeping ecall. Ecall doesn't even talk to the manufacturer. It just calls the emergency services directly.
Of course when the modem is on you can't be sure that it's not doing that but that's what we have laws for.
AFAIK ECall uses a voice call with data encoded on the audio channel. This is not what telemetry does, it should be doable to leave the voice channel and disable any data connections. (But it's probably very hard to check for someone who has no background in emebedded systems). Plus, in theory an emergency call can be done without even using a SIM card, right (if network allows)?
naranjito|1 year ago
No need of having always on connection to the network, enable on emergencies only. Thus no remote hacking of SIM/base band possible at random times, or broadcasting presence until used. Mechanic or user can check battery periodically, replace if low, just like refilling wiper fluid. Car could even cut all other electric systems after deploying the integrated autonomous V16-like system.
Car manufacturers deciding to make their ECall implementations complex and privacy invading was their choice.
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V16_warning_beacon_lights
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wkat4242|1 year ago
Of course when the modem is on you can't be sure that it's not doing that but that's what we have laws for.
ale42|1 year ago