I can see why it may make sense for JetBrains. JetBrains IDEs have extensive support for theming every type of element, and the IDEs are also continually evolving. The actual situation for many JetBrains color schemes (albeit free) are that that you may run into situations where something is not properly styled. I thought of redoing a Nord color scheme for a fun hour-long up to weekend thing and just didn't bother when I learned more about it.
The website is really well made, I like the theme and I think I use the normal version on VS Code.
A Color Theme subscription, this feels like a joke to me.
I can get custom fonts and styles, but colors … and not even a new theme but a „remastered“ version …
Monokai Pro is now available for JetBrains IDEs. A well-designed theme with carefully tuned colors and custom icons, built to let you focus on your code. Worth checking out if you're particular about your editor's aesthetics.
Thanks, I didn't know someone was to be credited for what is probably, the most common theme around.
I've ran many IDEs and text editors, I don't think any of them doesn't have a monokai named theme, exact match or not.
That said I find it difficult to derive a wage from a theme this popular and this widespread already. Or even for a theme alone. That said, I'm sure you'll find some customers.
I couldn't find at first glance what "pro" features were worth my hard earned money? Was it because the IDE shell itself would follow the theme?
The neat part about this project is that someone is choosing to see if they can make a subscription model for an attractive style viable.
The market, of course, and not the initially and loud naysayers will decide. So many things that we never thought would take off eventually did.
When you create a product, there are many different sorts of ways to make income:
* just give it away (no income)
* donations (I hear this has low income rates)
* one time fee (usually relatively high price and cost-of-entry for the buyer)
* subscription (lower cost of entry for the buyer, recurring income, easy-to-forget, facilitating continued revenue stream)
* free + money-making-gimmick / loot boxes / season pass / pay-per-key / horse armor (free cost of entry for the buyer, gamble for the developer, potentially source of HUGE returns, see: Fortnite, League of Legends, and so on)
The subscription model for styling tools has been seen in some places, usually customer-facing ones (see: https://mui.com/pricing/ ); but I don't think I've seen it very many times for developer-facing tools.
Should be interesting to see the results. Will you be sharing those in the coming future, maybe, to see how this experiment goes?
I don't think I'll share the details in the future, but it's an experiment for sure. I've seen success by selling one-off licenses of Monokai Pro for Sublime Text and VSCode, where I used the same mechanism: everything is free to use, except you get a pop-up message every now and then. People that want to get rid of the popup or offer support can then opt to pay for a license.
I understand it's uncommon practice to ask a fee for a set of colors. The reality is that making a theme and keeping it up to date is not trivial. A color theme, custom icon graphics and IDE config, along with code to glue it all together when you switch filters does take some time to make. And the codebase is different for each editor (Sublime: Python, VSCode: JavaScript, Jetbrains: Kotlin). I think it's not unfair to ask for a small fee for this work.
I just downloaded this and its very polished for a new release. Works great!
I will trial it for a bit and if I like it will definitely subscribe. Have you considered adding some premium features to help justify the subscription?
Thanks! I thought about unlocking color filters for subscribers, but opted for making everything available for free, and just showing a popup asking for a license every now and then.
What do you mean exactly? At the moment I'm tapping into their marketplace functionality with a small subscription fee and discounts the longer you use it.
The common theme was created by me. I've tried my best to make a polished theme for Jetbrains so that all colors in the IDE and the syntax highlighting harmonize better.
Tbh monokai (and solarized) never appealed to me, personally I dislike both. The best colorscheme is the one you make yourself. It’s not that hard once in a lifetime after you settled with an editor and 80% of it is the background and the primary keywords color. Red on dark is unreadable to me. Instead of code structure, I see white identifiers everywhere.
It is for those who spend on anything to increase their self worth? do not see how otherwise it can be useful. And these color palettes is actually pretty awful.
> My feelings about this very much hinge on whether or not it is in fact the original creator of the theme who gets paid for it.
If so? Fair enough, a very small ask for a very useful thing.
If not? Fuck your own face.
OPs HN profile says: "Author of the original Monokai color scheme and its successor https://monokai.pro"
So i guess, not his face to be f*@%#!
Sometimes it's worth to invest minimal effort into "research" before commenting aggressively.
Hope this is using Pantone copyrighted colors, because otherwise a yearly subscription with no perpetual fallback license is rather ridiculous for a theme. /s
paxys|1 year ago
keyle|1 year ago
Aside, imagine if they decided to charge for Google Maps today, the shear loss of income for every physical location would be incredible.
jhanschoo|1 year ago
BonoboIO|1 year ago
A Color Theme subscription, this feels like a joke to me. I can get custom fonts and styles, but colors … and not even a new theme but a „remastered“ version …
Edit: Nope, using Dracula
lexlash|1 year ago
$10/yr for the first year, $8 for the second, $6 for the third year and onwards uninterrupted.
$1/$0.80/$0.60 per month for the first/second/third year uninterrupted.
I paid for the VS Code theme. I will be passing on this.
https://plugins.jetbrains.com/plugin/26007-monokai-pro/prici...
monokai_nl|1 year ago
keyle|1 year ago
I've ran many IDEs and text editors, I don't think any of them doesn't have a monokai named theme, exact match or not.
That said I find it difficult to derive a wage from a theme this popular and this widespread already. Or even for a theme alone. That said, I'm sure you'll find some customers.
I couldn't find at first glance what "pro" features were worth my hard earned money? Was it because the IDE shell itself would follow the theme?
t-writescode|1 year ago
The market, of course, and not the initially and loud naysayers will decide. So many things that we never thought would take off eventually did.
When you create a product, there are many different sorts of ways to make income:
The subscription model for styling tools has been seen in some places, usually customer-facing ones (see: https://mui.com/pricing/ ); but I don't think I've seen it very many times for developer-facing tools.Should be interesting to see the results. Will you be sharing those in the coming future, maybe, to see how this experiment goes?
monokai_nl|1 year ago
I understand it's uncommon practice to ask a fee for a set of colors. The reality is that making a theme and keeping it up to date is not trivial. A color theme, custom icon graphics and IDE config, along with code to glue it all together when you switch filters does take some time to make. And the codebase is different for each editor (Sublime: Python, VSCode: JavaScript, Jetbrains: Kotlin). I think it's not unfair to ask for a small fee for this work.
russelg|1 year ago
kungfufrog|1 year ago
I will trial it for a bit and if I like it will definitely subscribe. Have you considered adding some premium features to help justify the subscription?
monokai_nl|1 year ago
rognjen|1 year ago
monokai_nl|1 year ago
mrichman|1 year ago
monokai_nl|1 year ago
vorpalhex|1 year ago
vunderba|1 year ago
n0n|1 year ago
wruza|1 year ago
batata_frita|1 year ago
diimdeep|1 year ago
hysan|1 year ago
zenethian|1 year ago
justinclift|1 year ago
Sure, but what does it do? The website doesn't say at all, only including some screenshots of it in action.
WTF?
---
The comments here clear that up, saying it's just a theme. That should be clearly communicated from the website itself though. ;)
benreesman|1 year ago
If so? Fair enough, a very small ask for a very useful thing.
If not? Fuck your own face.
endofreach|1 year ago
OPs HN profile says: "Author of the original Monokai color scheme and its successor https://monokai.pro"
So i guess, not his face to be f*@%#!
Sometimes it's worth to invest minimal effort into "research" before commenting aggressively.
vunderba|1 year ago
batata_frita|1 year ago
sieabahlpark|1 year ago
[deleted]
omolobo|1 year ago
[deleted]