No one wants to steal any content, they view content elsewhere due to ludicrous rights management systems on digital video content. Simplify the system to be closer to music and you wouldn't have any piracy. People aren't going to subscribe to 5-10 services monthly just to watch the latest shows.
Until that happens, expect piracy, it won't ever be stopped.
>No one wants to steal any content, they view content elsewhere due to ludicrous rights management systems on digital video content.
Actually I think they do. The median salary is quite low in the UK so there are a lot of people for whom piracy is an economic act rather than being about DRM.
When will the movie industry learn from the success of services like Spotify or DRM free music services like Bandcamp? I want media I can own, or consume from a single subscription. I would happily pay a few quid for a movie if I could download a high quality DRM free file. Piracy is not only free but provides a better product, a file you can do whatever you want with and watch anywhere.
Personally I don’t pirate, I prefer getting second hand physical media (funnily enough the movie studios miss out on any money there as well).
People are getting poorer while rich are getting richer, any government that would try to fight on piracy is just asking to get ousted.
That's why countries like Russia for instance are so lackluster on piracy, they sure have ways to monitor their citizens but they know very well that you don't mess with entertainment.
Romans knew that thousands of years ago, you would have to be the biggest bell end to not understand that.
> five people were jailed for more than 30 years for selling subscriptions to illegal streaming networks.
Rapist get between 10 and 20 in my country, murder is around 20 and only assassination is getting to 30. In what civilized countries is selling illegal streaming subscription worth 30 years of jail ?
After searching internet, Seems like they were 5 and each got around 6 years, so it's 30 years total. Makes more sense, don't know if the wording was bad or my brain tired.
My vote goes to that sentence being terrible. It's like saying I was at the beach with my family for 12 hours. But we were there for 3 hours and there are 4 of us...
I know it's about copyright 'piracy' instead of actual piracy, but the title being 'Piracy in the UK' makes me chuckle, like we've got buccaneers on Scarborough Mere.
when digital "property" can be returned for a refund, sold or transfered at will, works on any
operating system, is insurable, then , it will be in a position where it will be respected enough to
get public suport for inclusion as real property.
idea: digital property could be uniquely insurable, as a loss could be re-issued withe same
serial #
Or we could just accept the inherent properties of the medium and not try to shoehorn it into the model of exclusive scarcity for physical goods, whether for reductio ad absurdum or not. (Heck, the scarcity model is even starting to break down for sundry consumer goods in the light of "free returns" and whatnot, at least in the US)
It's hard to take the original article seriously when it's going on and on about "stealing". It does have an astute point about out of touch ham-fisted anti-piracy campaigns actually increasing public support for piracy. In that light, this article would have itself been better as a video clip.
I have a simple rule: I don't pay money for drm. I buy a lot of games on gog.com, itch.io, and get classical music through Hyperion records. Every creative professional I know gets about ten pence a year to live on after half a lifetime of (post-grad) education and is a very dedicated and intelligent professional who is either supported by the church of England, teaching on the side to pay the bills, another charitable organisation, or is independently wealthy. Record labels really don't provide much for either end of the pipeline and I think that most people in society recognise that.
The first day I moved to Germany I immediately got fined €300 for streaming 10 seconds of a film using Popcorn Time.
I just couldn't believe it. I'd had decades of piracy through Virgin Media, no VPN in the UK and it just didn't occur to me that I couldn't do that elsewhere.
I truly believe that it's the user experience that makes the difference between lots of piracy, and very little. Take video games as an example, they're hardly cheap, however other than retro games that are difficult to play otherwise, almost everyone just buys the game on steam/gog/epic/whatever, because the experience for most people is:
1. Open Steam
2. Search for game
3. Buy game
4. Play game
Whereas if I want to watch a movie, I honestly don't even know where to start looking for it, there's no simple way to just pay for it on the movie app, keep it forever, download it, and watch it when you want. You have to do this ritual of finding what streaming service it's actually on, hope you have a subscription to it, if not subscribe to it, probably find it's not even available in your region, and if the stars align you might be able to watch your film for the next 30 days.
Or you can go on one of the many pirate sites, search for the movie, click the play/download button, and you're sorted.
I do pirate movies quite frequently, but moreso because it's the only realistic way to type a name into a search bar and just play the damn thing.
Most piracy has moved to online streaming instead of distributing files for later offline viewing. Here's a site I found with 30 seconds of googling: https://westream.to/home - surprisingly polished and with much better UX than any legal service, because it doesn't require account creation or logging in. It just works. I clicked on Dune 2, waited for a moment, and it started playing. Picture quality is fairly muddy, but good enough for the average consumer. Under the hood, such sites might still use web-based torrent protocol to move the bytes around, but it's not visible to the end-user in any meaningful way.
ktallett|1 year ago
Until that happens, expect piracy, it won't ever be stopped.
tonyedgecombe|1 year ago
Actually I think they do. The median salary is quite low in the UK so there are a lot of people for whom piracy is an economic act rather than being about DRM.
orobinson|1 year ago
Personally I don’t pirate, I prefer getting second hand physical media (funnily enough the movie studios miss out on any money there as well).
Mindwipe|1 year ago
They don't make any money. They are, essentially, only useful learning experiences in what not to do.
aucisson_masque|1 year ago
That's why countries like Russia for instance are so lackluster on piracy, they sure have ways to monitor their citizens but they know very well that you don't mess with entertainment.
Romans knew that thousands of years ago, you would have to be the biggest bell end to not understand that.
> five people were jailed for more than 30 years for selling subscriptions to illegal streaming networks.
Rapist get between 10 and 20 in my country, murder is around 20 and only assassination is getting to 30. In what civilized countries is selling illegal streaming subscription worth 30 years of jail ?
After searching internet, Seems like they were 5 and each got around 6 years, so it's 30 years total. Makes more sense, don't know if the wording was bad or my brain tired.
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metalman|1 year ago
idea: digital property could be uniquely insurable, as a loss could be re-issued withe same serial #
mindslight|1 year ago
It's hard to take the original article seriously when it's going on and on about "stealing". It does have an astute point about out of touch ham-fisted anti-piracy campaigns actually increasing public support for piracy. In that light, this article would have itself been better as a video clip.
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tetris11|1 year ago
I just couldn't believe it. I'd had decades of piracy through Virgin Media, no VPN in the UK and it just didn't occur to me that I couldn't do that elsewhere.
Eavolution|1 year ago
1. Open Steam 2. Search for game 3. Buy game 4. Play game
Whereas if I want to watch a movie, I honestly don't even know where to start looking for it, there's no simple way to just pay for it on the movie app, keep it forever, download it, and watch it when you want. You have to do this ritual of finding what streaming service it's actually on, hope you have a subscription to it, if not subscribe to it, probably find it's not even available in your region, and if the stars align you might be able to watch your film for the next 30 days.
Or you can go on one of the many pirate sites, search for the movie, click the play/download button, and you're sorted.
I do pirate movies quite frequently, but moreso because it's the only realistic way to type a name into a search bar and just play the damn thing.
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