[dirkt]

Don't forget that other manufacturers collect the same data, they just didn't have a collection of blunders that allowed access. No malicious intent this time, but it clearly highlights that companies need to learn to put policies in place to make double sure PII is actually protected to the degree the law already requires. We also need laws that force companies to make opting out of this kind of data collection much easier, or to make it opt-in in the first place.

[akimbostrawman]

>No malicious intent this time

it must be 1984 because otherwise collecting centimeter precise location data of vehicles would definitely be malicious....

[croes]

> they just didn't have a collection of blunders that allowed access

Correction:

They just don't have a known collection of blunders that allow access.

I bet if you look closely you’ll find more.

[numpad0]

I'm hallucinating, but IIUC, there is a philosophical loophole that makes tracking a car through factory installed means is a total wild west; because you don't know who owns or drives the car, but a car is sold to dealerships and resold to households to be used and maintained by anyone, you technically wouldn't know if it's driven by humans, just what you made seem to be doing something. Is that (still) correct?

[bluGill]

More importantly also give people a way to check and use that date. Is my employee using the car personally (a violation of the laws allowing me to deduct the car)? did my employee really use the correct route? is my wife cheating on me? Did my kids really go to the library or were they racing across town?

the above is all I can come up with. For many none of that applies and so the data can only be used against us.

[f1shy]

> they just didn't have a collection of blunders that allowed access

That is no little difference my friend!!!

[pas]

> ... need to learn to put policies in place to make double sure blablal is actually tralala.

no. they already have too many policies. and this and that. adding one more is how we got there. (of course they have policies for making sure PII is kept safe.)

no. this is a cultural issue.