[miav]

So, why are we mad about this? The techniques used maintain perfect privacy throughought the process. It's a neat feature with no downsides for the user.

[diggan]

> So, why are we mad about this?

Not everyone wants the software/OSes we run to automatically send data elsewhere. I bought the damn device, I own it, yet somehow it/the company decides that some things it comes across on it, can be sent to the company?

No thank you, I prefer consensual computing.

> with no downsides for the user

No downsides for you, with your requirements/use cases. If the user has a requirement of "Doesn't send anything to anyone without consent", then this is obviously a downside.

[helpfulContrib]

>Not everyone wants the software/OSes we run to automatically send data elsewhere.

I personally find it offensive when a mega-corp makes the assumption that my connection to the Internet is available for them to build for-profit services without giving me sufficient agency.

The cant-disable-Wifi-safely dark pattern is bad enough. But turning me into a data harvester for their million-dollar services, without even thinking about giving me a cut?

No thanks.

Alas, these anti-patterns have become a norm by way of ignorance, and its not getting better.

[drawkward]

Because apple could, just as easily, have auto opted-out everyone from this decision. I am not, by default, training data for AI or machine learning.

[foldr]

Could Apple get any training data out of this, given the homomorphic encryption?

[bogdan]

The question should be "why are you not mad about this?".

[dialup_sounds]

I'm not mad about this because I use Google Photos, which has been doing the same thing for the last two years without people on the internet telling me to be mad about it.

[shepherdjerred]

Because Apple did a great job implementing a useful feature in a privacy-preserving way, and I don't want to toggle on 100 opt-in features when I setup a new iPhone

[cudgy]

Ok. Maybe Apple won’t mind running my executable and letting it send sensitive data to my server?

[lapcat]

"We" don't automatically, naively assume that a brand new feature, which has undergone no external validation, that uploads data/metadata from your personal, private photos library without your foreknowledge or consent, is "perfect".