[kayewiggin]

Very comprehensive list of how China has lost export power to US over the years. Remember that US has the largest consumer market in the world, more than double the second place, EU. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_consumer_marke...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenroberts/2024/06/25/us-import...

- Chinese imports into the United States are down 19.78% from April of 2018 — when Trump first started imposing tariffs — to today, or $31.88 billion.

- Cell phones: Big winner is India. China has gone from a market share of 63.59% in 2018 to a still strong 42.14%. That’s a decline of 33.73%.

- Computers: Big winners are Taiwan, Vietnam. China has gone from a market share from 53.45% in the first four months of 2018 to 28.11%, a decline of 47.40%.

- Furniture: Big winner is Vietnam. China, meanwhile, accounted for 23.55% this year, down from 48.54% in 2018, a decline of 51.49% compared to a gain of 88.67% for Vietnam.

- TVs and monitors: Big winner is Vietnam. Mexico overtook China as the import leader in this category just before the pandemic and has remained on top. It gained market share from China, which fell from 53.68% in 2018, when it was No. 1, to 33.64%, a 37.32% decline.

- Digital storage devices: Big winners are Korea, Vietnam. China accounted for 39.50% of those imports in 2018, more than double that of any other nation. In 2024, its percentage is 4.23% and it ranks No. 9.

- Digital cameras: Yep, Vietnam again. China, meanwhile, has seen its share go from a majority, at 50.09%, to 17.57%, a decline of 64.92%.

[riku_iki]

> TVs and monitors: Big winner is Vietnam. Mexico overtook China as the import leader

This doesn't make sense to me, do they do some high level assembly of components? I think China took over global market of TV panels manufacturing for example:

With this transaction, Chinese manufacturers’ market share of the LCD panels used in TVs will increase from 66% to 72%, with nearly 100% share in ultra-large 90 – 115 inch screens.

The market share of Chinese OLED panel manufacturers is forecasted to increase from 47.9% this year to 50.2% next year, surpassing the OLED shipment share of Korean companies.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/willyshih/2024/10/13/chinese-ma...

It sounds like it could be that China losing in cheap assembling tasks, but significantly gaining in high tech manufacturing.

[travisporter]

That sense to be possible thesis esp given a comment earlier about china effectively laundering some goods to countries with deficits to china