[anonylizard]

There's a titanic market with people wanting some uncensored local LLM/image/video generation model. This market extremely overlaps with gamers today, but will grow exponentially every year.

[Cumpiler69]

How big is that market you claim? Local LLM image generation already exists out off the box on latest Samsung flagship phones and it's mostly a Gimmick that gets old pretty quickly. Hardly comparable to gaming in terms of market size and profitablity.

Plus, YouTube and the Google images is already full of AI generated slop and people are already tired of it. "AI fatigue" amongst majority of general consumers is a documented thing. Gaming fatigues is not.

[TeMPOraL]

> Gaming fatigues is not.

It is. You may know it as the "I prefer to play board games (and feel smugly superior about it) because they're ${more social, require imagination, $whatever}" crowd.

[madwolf]

I think he implied AI generated porn. Perhaps also other kind of images that are at odds with morality and/or the law. I'm not sure but probably Samsung phones don't let you do that.

[JohnBooty]

I'm sure a lot of people see "uncensored" and think "porn" but there's a lot of stuff that e.g. Dall-E won't let you do.

Suppose you're a content creator and you need an image of a real person or something copyrighted like a lot of sports logos for your latest YouTube video's thumbnail. That kind of thing.

I'm not getting into how good or bad that is; I'm just saying I think it's a pretty common use case.

[stuaxo]

Apart from the uncensored bit, I'm in this small market.

Do I buy a Macbook with silly amount of RAM when I only want to mess with images occasionally.

Do I get a big Nvidia card, topping out at 24gb - still small for some LLMs, but I could occasionally play games using it at least.

[weregiraffe]

>There's a titanic market

Titanic - so about to hit an iceberg and sink?

[otabdeveloper4]

> There's a titanic market with people wanting some uncensored local LLM/image/video generation model.

No. There's already too much porn on the internet, and AI porn is cringe and will get old very fast.

[ceejayoz]

AI porn is currently cringe, just like Eliza for conversations was cringe.

The cutting edge will advance, and convincing bespoke porn of people's crushes/coworkers/bosses/enemies/toddlers will become a thing. With all the mayhem that results.

[JohnBooty]

I think there are a lot of non-porn uses. I see a lot of YouTube thumbnails that seem AI generated, but feature copyrighted stuff.

(example: a thumbnail for a YT video about a video game, featuring AI-generated art based on that game. because copyright reasons, in my very limited experience Dall-E won't let you do that)

I agree that AI porn doesn't seem a real market driver. With 8 billion people on Earth I know it has its fans I guess, but people barely pay for porn in the first place so I reallllly dunno how many people are paying for AI porn either directly or indirectly.

It's unclear to me if AI generated video will ever really cross the "uncanny valley." Of course, people betting against AI have lost those bets again and again but I don't know.

[Filligree]

> No. There's already too much porn on the internet, and AI porn is cringe and will get old very fast.

I needed an uncensored model in order to, guess what, make an AI draw my niece snowboarding down a waterfall. All the online services refuse on basis that the picture contains -- oh horrors -- a child.

"Uncensored" absolutely does not imply NSFW.

[Paradigma11]

I think scams will create a far more demand. Spear Phishing targets by creating persistent elaborate online environments is going to be big.

[itsoktocry]

>There's a titantic market

How so?

Only 40% of gamers use a PC, a portion of those use AI in any meaningful way, and a fraction of those want to set up a local AI instance.

Then someone releases an uncensored, cloud based AI and takes your market?