[shiroiushi]

This entire comment section is simultaneously hilarious and sad to read, because it's obviously a bunch of myopic Americans who have never ventured outside of America and have no clue how other cities in the world work. Honestly I try to avoid commenting in forums like this because it's so fruitless: it's just like trying to have a rational discussion about vaccines (or anything really) with a bunch of Trump followers.

[wat10000]

What’s funny is that I’m sure most of them know other kinds of cities exist. And they know that people somehow manage to survive and thrive there, even if they don’t know how. But this all gets ignored once you start talking about trying to emulate some of that.

For too many Americans, there’s no difference between “that can’t work,” “that can’t work here,” and “we don’t do that.”

[signatoremo]

Did you know that car ownership in the Netherlands has continued to rise?

This is a blog post of a cycling advocate, from 2019 but still relevant - [0]

Quote:

In 1992, 42% of Dutch households were car-free. By 2016 this had dropped to about a quarter. Car ownership has continued to increase since then. Higher car ownership leads to higher car usage. Almost anyone who can easily afford a car has one and there aren't many people at all who choose to go without if they can afford one: Amongst people of average income, just 12% of households don't have a car and that drops further to just 6% for high income households.

In other words, people choose to own a car if they can afford it, even if they cycle frequently at the same time.

[0] -https://www.aviewfromthecyclepath.com/2019/08/the-car-free-m...

[SoftTalker]

All large European cities have a lot of traffic, public transit notwithstanding. And in the small towns, most people have a car because public transit is not economical in sparsely populated areas.