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I'm surprised this article doesn't mention the elephant in the room. With Musk's influence over the Trump administration it seems overwhelmingly likely that Tesla will achieve Full Self Driving by changing the regulatory framework to allow whatever Tesla currently has to be called (and used as) self-driving. It's that simple. Will your Tesla suddenly become an autonomous vehicle? Well obviously not you cant just change the regulations and hope reality accomodates you.

So what we'll probably end up with is real self driving Waymos all over the place and fake self-driving Teslas that 'self-drive' as long as you're still really driving.

The only real concern I have is whether Musk exploits his position to impact the regulations to push both Waymo and Tesla into a bucket called "self-driving" where they get categorized the same and both still require drivers, essentially using the regulations to knee cap any rival that is ahead of Tesla.

The other side of it is that I think we'd all be very happy if Musk went back to just lying about his electric vehicles.

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jqpabc123|1 year ago

The real elephant in the room is whether FSD is even possible by using primarily visual input.

Personally, I don't think so.

There are simply too many driving situations where visual input is severely limited. FSD can use all the help it can get.

jfengel|1 year ago

Don't you drive using primarily visual input?

I don't know if machine learning can ever match the human brain for that. The brain does a lot of fairly advanced inferences that require a deep understanding of the world and the people and things in it.

Still, I'm not sure how much additional inputs would help the ML. If you had to drive by "touch" (LIDAR), you probably shouldn't be allowed to drive. It might be useful when the visual system has failed, to stop the vehicle before it hits something, but if the visual system fails that often then the system wouldn't be usable for any purpose.

LittleTimothy|1 year ago

Does that matter? Waymo solved FSD. The technical detail of the implementation is moot.