[AFirestone]

Hi there, Mermaid CEO here:)

I hear you on the whiteboard. It's still in its early days. Should be substantially improved in the coming months.

To clarify on mermaidchart.com and mermaid.live, we are the same team. Mermaid.live is our fully open source hosted editor. This was the original editor for our 10 year old open source project. The creator of Mermaid recently founded mermaidchart.com with the CEO of Gitlab's venture studio to expand the capabilities of Mermaid for more users and build an enterprise grade product. The company is open core and venture backed. The Mermaid project will remain forever open source and will continue to invest in growing it and the company for those that desire more advanced business features.

We really appreciate your feedback and support. Ping me if you'd like to chat with our product team about the features you're hoping for:) [e-mail]

[infogulch]

Please forgive my posting on the broader topic of Mermaid... The Mermaid package has gotten much bigger recently. Compare mermaid.min.js across a sampling of major releases:

     9.2.2  2022-11-09  1.09 MB 
     9.3.0  2022-12-15   899 kB
     9.4.0  2023-02-15  2.82 MB
    10.9.1  2024-05-14  3.34 MB
    11.4.1  2024-11-27  2.57 MB

All the new features are really cool, and maybe this is "fine" when mermaid itself is the purpose of the website (like this submission), but it's a bigger burden when mermaid is a value-add for generic markdown documentation: every visitor has to download and execute 3+MB of js just to view simple diagrams, or worse even when there are no diagrams on that page at all.

Is there a plan to reduce the required bundle size for viewers and users that only use a small subset of mermaid's wide feature set?

[zelcon]

Props for somehow convincing all the foundation models to generate charts using your markup. It is guaranteed to survive a very long time now.

[x0hm]

Mermaid CEO is probably the coolest title I've ever heard

[nhatcher]

It is pretty cool! But,

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14908052

[paulg2222]

Good choice of a product name. Totally applicable. /s I know single-word, unrelated product labelling is the shit for quite some years now.