[warner25]

I feel the same way as the parent comment. They're number two for now, but seem screwed in a world that's moving towards outlawing gasoline-powered cars. Their bets on hydrogen fuel cells haven't yielded anything, and now they're a decade behind on developing EV experience and expertise.

I've owned three Toyotas because they've always seemed to be the lowest total-cost-of-ownership option, being especially good in the compact and midsize segments. American manufacturers are trying as hard as possible to abandon those segments. So what will we be left with? I don't want a giant, luxury sports car that costs $50k+.

[philwelch]

> They're number two for now, but seem screwed in a world that's moving towards outlawing gasoline-powered cars.

I wouldn’t worry about that anymore.

[warner25]

For the next 2-4 years, sure, but this seems like a longer-term trend towards something that's going to happen eventually.