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gazchop | 1 year ago

Perhaps they did and got told no and decided to take it anyway?

Defending themselves with technicalities and expensive lawyers may be financially viable.

Zero ethics but what would we expect from them?

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XorNot|1 year ago

Who is "them"? Like, who in the Meta business reporting line made this decision, then how did they communicate it to the engineers who would've been necessary to implement it, particularly at scale?

While it's plausible someone downloaded a bunch of torrents and tossed them in the training directory...again, under who's authority? Like if this happened it would be one overzealous data scientist potentially. Hardly "them".

People lean on collective pronouns to avoid actually thinking about the mechanics of human enterprise and you get extremely absurd conclusions.

(it is not outside the bounds of thinkable that an org could in fact have a very bad culture like this, but I know people who work for Meta, who also have law degrees - they're well aware of the potential problems).

aithrowawaycomm|1 year ago

Come on... it's fine that you haven't followed the story, there's a lot going on, but the snotty condescension is very frustrating:

  These newly unredacted documents reveal exchanges between Meta employees unearthed in the discovery process, like a Meta engineer telling a colleague that they hesitated to access LibGen data because “torrenting from a [Meta-owned] corporate laptop doesn’t feel right ”. They also allege that internal discussions about using LibGen data were escalated to Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg (referred to as "MZ" in the memo handed over during discovery) and that Meta's AI team was "approved to use" the pirated material.
https://www.wired.com/story/new-documents-unredacted-meta-co...