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zephyrus1985 | 1 year ago

I believe it now doesn't apply for to parents that are here illegally. Not taking sides but just pointing the nuance

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gnulinux|1 year ago

Did you read the executive order? It clearly states it also covers parents that are here legally through visas like H, F etc... It is not just about illegal immigration. E.g. if you work in the US on H and have a kid with a student on F visa, the kid will not be a US citizen going forward (starting in 30 days).

I'd be curious to hear the argument that people legally working or studying here aren't "subject to jurisdiction" of. People on H1B for a while file the exact same taxes citizens file (because they're US persons for tax purposes). Not sure how are they legally not subject to jurisdiction of?

laristine|1 year ago

In any angle of view, those people are clearly subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.

alanfranz|1 year ago

Not a US citizen here so I may miss some nuances.

I’d think the “tourist VISA” part makes sense after all.

The “work VISA” part is strange, as you say. If I’m on a 15 days business trip, could make sense. If on a multi-year H1B… well, it sucks.

mhx1138|1 year ago

This will surely dissuade people from coming to work on work visa. It’s a big step to relocate your carrier to another country. If there is no perspective to fully commit and plan proper migration, then there is less motivation to even go in the first place.

TimK65|1 year ago

I believe that historically, the primary group of people who are "not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States" are diplomatic personnel from other countries. Those people actually are not subject to U.S. jurisdiction.