[L3viathan]

The point they're trying to make, I think, is: Black/Ruff format, or any other formatter necessarily need to operate on universal rules. In context, sometimes these rules don't make sense. I still would love some kind of stateful linter and formatter, where it suggests me changes that I can then accept or ignore (and won't be told about again).

Formatters _are_ a compromise. They make your coworkers' code nicer, and your code worse.

[eesmith]

The point I was trying to make is to give examples of rules I thought were ugly, to give a concrete response to paulgb's request for such a rule.

One, as I learned, could be resolved by a simple use of a terminal ",".

The other is how it removes spaces from around "=" for keyword arguments, but not for other uses of "=".

I can't provide much more as I rarely use black. As a single developer, I don't have to worry much about that sort of compromise. ;)

[tda]

The removal of spaces around keyword arguments is per the PEP8 style guide. There is no point arguing with the style guide. It is there to end discussions. I also do not agree with everything in the style guide. But I keep that to myself. Because a single universal (but flawed) style guides >> competing style guides >> complete anarchy