[dwnw]

Hardware is better at this: notebook, pencil, baseball bat.

"AI art" is plagiarism and not an art at all.

[__d]

I’m interested in the plagiarism perspective.

I feel like LLMs are not too dissimilar to humans. We listen to a lifetime of music, read text, watch videos, etc. and when we come to create something all of that influences what we produce.

Like if you’ve listened largely to western music, and you look for a note to complete a provided two-note sequence, your choice is informed by that listening history. A non-western trained person is likely to pick a different note. Similar analogies can be made for eg English phrases, or even topics for songs.

There’s clearly a boundary between influenced by and copied. Is it the same for generative AI as it is for humans?

[dwnw]

Art is about the human experience of the artist reflected in the art. LLMs have no human experience. They just try to statistically trick you into thinking they made art through mass plagiarism of art. It's an illusion, and also rather boring/lame/uncool.

You can do it, sure. But you'll probably also start to wonder why nobody really wants to listen to it, and you can count me out before I do.

[latexr]

> baseball bat

Could you expand on this? How does a baseball bat help you in songwriting?

[mattpope]

I went to a Slipknot concert back in 2022. They had a "junk set", a bunch of trashcans and kegs that they hit with aluminum bats. Not completely the same, but it did have a dissonant sound!

[dwnw]

Sure. With rock & roll, the pencil is sometimes not large enough to rage against the machine properly and a heftier implement is necessary.