[shekispeaks]

The only people who will respond is those who want to claim some status by saying they drive a reliable old car or some rare version of Porsche or Saab.

Nobody who drives the most recent bme x3 or Audi a8 or Nissan kicks is gonna respond.

I drive a Hyundai Ioniq5

[jickes]

Why do they need to drive a practical car? Some people have the $$$ to not worry about that and I'm not going to shit on them for that.

These are really cool and have more cargo room than they look like they have due to its long wheel base. Hyundai/kia went from diet coke civic to cool kid on the block. Was looking to buy one of these becuase im in the market for an EV but Im probably gonna get a used polestar 3 because I like volvo and they are a steal right now with low miles.

[meristohm]

I'll shit on them for that. Cars, like guns, are tools, not toys. To use them like toys is harmful and disrespectful to the environment. There are healthier ways to feel powerful. To use cars as profligately as we do now is immensely harmful. For background, I grew up poor and in farming country. I used to ride along with my neighbor when he hayed our field with equipment that a blacksmith, a wheelwright, a leatherworker, and a carpenter could make, pulled by a brace of draught horses.

I didn't get my driving license until I was in my 20s, and finally did in the interest of designated driving for drunk friends. I didn't get an automobile until I was almost 30, and I really look forward to returning to a carfree lifestyle. "Public luxury, private sufficiency" is the way forward for us billions. The more integrated out bodies and minds to meet our needs, the better.