[danuker]

Perhaps JetBrains should reconsider AppCode, since Xcode only got this crappy recently. Apparently they didn't get the market share they had hoped for.

https://blog.jetbrains.com/appcode/2022/12/appcode-2022-3-re...

[wruza]

Xcode only got this crappy recently

It gets exponentially more crappy every time, which creates an impression that it only got crappy recently. I remember it doing this since 2010. The usual counter is to stay on the same version until either of you is literally dead.

Although I didn’t find AppCode more useful for my simple tasks. If anything, it felt android-ish in ux, if you know what I mean.

[aleph_minus_one]

> It gets exponentially more crappy every time

On which ratio scale (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Level_of_measurement#Ratio_sca... ) do you define/measure "crappiness" so that you can say that "crappiness" grows exponentially? ;-)

[joshstrange]

> since Xcode only got this crappy recently

I've always felt like it was slow and annoying to use personally. At least coming from the IntelliJ world, maybe if you were only in Xcode it was pretty decent until recently.

[bena]

Same. Coming from Visual Studio, XCode always felt just kinda bad.

[dtech]

They seem to be putting all of their eggs in the Kotlin multi-platform basket.

Might also be why they discontinued it so those devs with iOS expertise could focus on that.

[singularity2001]

Kotlin which is a beautiful language unfortunately is killed by Gradle which is even worse than Xcode

[lucsky]

> since Xcode only got this crappy recently

Xcode has been slow, messy, buggy and all around atrocious to use since day one. Being forced to migrate from MPW and Code Warrior to this utter piece of garbage has actually pushed me to web development.