[mugsie]

Yeah, DevOps was a culture not a job title, and then we let us software engineers in who just want to throw something into prod and go home on friday night, so they decided it was a task, and the lowest importance thing possible, but simultaniously, the devops/sre/prod eng teams needed to be perfect, because its prod.

it is a wierd dichotomy I have seem, and it is getting worse. We let teams have access to argo manifiests, and helm charts, and even let them do custom in repo charts.

not one team in the last year has actually gone and looked at k8s docs to figure out how to do basic shit, they just dump questions into channels, and soak up time from people explaining the basics of the system their software runs on.