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fabianhjr | 1 year ago

There are illegal numbers in the USA land of the "free".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_number

> An AACS encryption key (09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0) that came to prominence in May 2007 is an example of a number claimed to be a secret, and whose publication or inappropriate possession is claimed to be illegal in the United States.

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JumpCrisscross|1 year ago

> illegal numbers in the USA land of the "free"

This is a silly take for anyone in tech. Any binary sequence is a number. Any information can be, for practical purposes, rendered in binary [1].

Getting worked up about restrictions on numbers works as a meme, for the masses, because it sounds silly, but is tantamount to technically arguing against privacy, confidentiality, the concept of national secrets, IP as a whole, et cetera.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shannon%27s_source_coding_th...

fabianhjr|1 year ago

Good thing that is part of the wikipedia entry:

> Any piece of digital information is representable as a number; consequently, if communicating a specific set of information is illegal in some way, then the number may be illegal as well.

sheepdestroyer|1 year ago

All those things are not self-evident and thus debatable

suraci|1 year ago

> is collecting rain water illegal?

> It depends on where you live. In many places, collecting rainwater is completely legal and even encouraged, but some regions have regulations or restrictions.

United States: Most states allow rainwater collection, but some have restrictions on how much you can collect or how it can be used. For example, Colorado has limits on the amount of rainwater homeowners can store. Australia: Generally legal and encouraged, with many homes using rainwater tanks. UK & Canada: Legal with few restrictions. India & Many Other Countries: Often encouraged due to water scarcity.

bloopernova|1 year ago

That takes me back! Fark.com would delete any comment that contained random hexadecimal.

KPGv2|1 year ago

It was the beginning of the end for Digg, too, IIRC. Started a lot of people leaving for Reddit, right?

KPGv2|1 year ago

> whose publication or inappropriate possession is claimed to be illegal in the United States.

That's not the same thing as a number being illegal at all. Here, watch this:

> I claim breathing is illegal in the United States

There, now breathing is claimed to be illegal in the United States.

I-M-S|1 year ago

In both cases, legality depends entirely on repercussions, i.e. if there's someone to enforce the ban. I suspect that in the "illegal numbers" case there might be.