[halfadot]

It is absolutely fascinating to read the fantasy produced by people who (apparently) think they live in a sci-fi movie.

The companies whose datasets you're "poisoning" absolutely know about the attempts to poison data. All the ideas I've seen linked on this side so far about how they're going to totally defeat the AI companies' models sound like a mixture of wishful thinking and narcissism.

[mrbungie]

Are you suggesting some kind of invulnerability? People iterate their techniques, if big techs are so capable of avoiding poisoning/gaming attempts there would be no decades long tug-of-war between Google and black hat SEO manipulators.

Also I don't get the narcissism part. Would it be petty to poison a website only when looked by a spider? Yes, but I would also be that petty if some big company doesn't respect the boundaries I'm setting with my robots.txt on my 1-viewer cat photo blog.

[stale2002]

Its not complete invulnerability. Instead, it is merely accepting that these methods might increase costs, like a little bit, but they don't cause the whole thing to explode.

The idea that a couple bad faith actions can destroy a 100 billion dollar company, is the extraordinary claim that requires extraordinary evidence.

Sure, bad actors can do a little damage. Just like bad actors can do DDoS attempts against Google. And that will cause a little damage. But mostly Google wins. Same thing applies to these AI companies.

> Also I don't get the narcissism part

The narcissism is the idea that your tiny website is going to destroy a 100 billion dollar company. It won't. They'll figure it out.

[aprilthird2021]

Who said they don't know? The same way companies know about hackers, it doesn't mean nothing ever gets hacked