This number doesn't surprise me. I live within the Arctic circle and there are a lot of wood ants [0] in my area. Among the various reasons wood ants are fascinating (aphid farming, formic acid spitting/squirting) is that they live in very large mounds that can reach several feet high.
Each of these mounds are estimated to have a population ranging from 100,000 to over one million and there can be dozens of them within a 100m × 100m square. I imagine it similar to the state of New York full of NYCs, just a few miles between each. A Finnish study found that these mounds can be connected into super-colonies which span kilometers. [1]
I have also lived in California and have experienced red ants beginning to stake out territory near or in my home. Remember that they are not there just because of the food sources, but in spite of us making the terrain otherwise utterly inhospitable to them with pavement, insecticide, diatomaceous earth, and all of that. And still they can be incredibly difficult to get rid of.
The way they operate as a colony makes them very interesting. I can see why so many people have caught the ant-fascination bug.
Growing up in an area with big ant hills, I just can't wrap my head around the fact that there are more ants by weight than all other mammals combined. Because I can imagine a small forest with multiple of these ant hills which undoubtedly have millions of ants, but at the same time an apartment building with a few humans in it would surely outweigh all of those ants. So where are all the ants hiding?
At an average length of 3.7mm, that's around 46 billion miles of ants, if they march end to end. more than 10x the distance to Pluto for reference. Please check my math! (and if you want something crazy, do the same math for all of the bacteria on earth...)
20 quadrillion. That's 20 million billion. So given there are roughly 10 billion human beings on earth then the ants outnumber us by a factor of two million.
An astronomical number, but still fewer than there are stars in the known cosmos, by a factor of about 5,000,000. Even the most common forms of multicellular life are practically Silmarils in terms of rarity on the cosmic scale.
They are also a speciies capable of Teamwork , Farming , engineering , Forming governing system , Building sky scrapers . No other animals come close to that.
What if they would be considered as Non Human Intelligence?
Certainly they are. So when Karl Nell says "a higher form of Non Human Intelligence" is interacting with humanity, I doubt he means ants.
When Tim Gallaudet says "advanced non human intelligence" are interacting with our assets in the oceans - I doubt he means dolphins.
Tho both are undoubtedly NHI.
The actual "tech civilizational level" NHI are often described as insectoid. Interesting to consider that a collectively intelligent ant species could proceed through evolution into a multiplanet technologically super-advanced one.
The absolute numbers are awe inspiring, but the paper actually only adjusted the previous best estimate by about an order of magnitude. It's cool to see incremental scientific improvements getting some spotlight!
picafrost|1 year ago
Each of these mounds are estimated to have a population ranging from 100,000 to over one million and there can be dozens of them within a 100m × 100m square. I imagine it similar to the state of New York full of NYCs, just a few miles between each. A Finnish study found that these mounds can be connected into super-colonies which span kilometers. [1]
I have also lived in California and have experienced red ants beginning to stake out territory near or in my home. Remember that they are not there just because of the food sources, but in spite of us making the terrain otherwise utterly inhospitable to them with pavement, insecticide, diatomaceous earth, and all of that. And still they can be incredibly difficult to get rid of.
The way they operate as a colony makes them very interesting. I can see why so many people have caught the ant-fascination bug.
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formica
[1] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27859791/
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0. https://ourworldindata.org/wild-mammals-birds-biomass
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BurningFrog|1 year ago
So you can think of it as a single organism that has a "distributed" body.
From that perspective, the individual ants correspond to cells or organs, and it becomes both less and more fantastic :)
keepamovin|1 year ago
When Tim Gallaudet says "advanced non human intelligence" are interacting with our assets in the oceans - I doubt he means dolphins.
Tho both are undoubtedly NHI.
The actual "tech civilizational level" NHI are often described as insectoid. Interesting to consider that a collectively intelligent ant species could proceed through evolution into a multiplanet technologically super-advanced one.
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If I were ant emperor I’d attack human farms and food processing places.
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http://yourwildlife.org/2014/01/ants-take-over-space-station...
reaperducer|1 year ago
All of them.
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