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troelsSteegin | 1 year ago

https://doge.gov does not say anything about what the DOGE plan is, and https://www.usds.gov/ is not apparently up to date wrt DOGE. Is there something other than the Executive Order [0] that lays out concretely what DOGE intends to do? This group of engineers is doubtless skilled, but I don't seem them as the decision makers and planners here.

[0] https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/esta...

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mrkeen|1 year ago

[https://doge.gov/]

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Feels like the Twitter transition again.

Hey remember when there was concern that he might not have time to effectively run Tesla and SpaceX. And then Twitter. And 12 kids. Or popping ketamine and playing Diablo 4 all night.

I guess he's got time to run the country too.

Phelinofist|1 year ago

I'm also blocked. Is it some geo block perhaps? I'm from Germany

burgerrito|1 year ago

I'm from Indonesia and my access has been blocked too.

mkoryak|1 year ago

Nice, the $ logo is a 22.5kb 375x372 avif file resized to 48x48. That is efficient!

zelphirkalt|1 year ago

Only top engineers at work there. Pahhaha!

ahazred8ta|1 year ago

We went through something similar in the 1960s with the Whiz Kids, young college graduates from the RAND corporation with no experience in government or the military. 'But you have to obey us because we're so much smarter than you.' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiz_Kids_(Department_of_Defen...

LastTrain|1 year ago

That wasn't even remotely similar to what is happening now.

KerrAvon|1 year ago

The Whiz Kids, for all their flaws, were duly and lawfully appointed. It wasn't this.

kelnos|1 year ago

Of course not. Getting all of this done requires overwhelming amounts of surprise. Trump signing a flood of executive orders is a part of this: it takes time to figure out what's going on with each one, and how to combat it. And in that time, the damage can already be done.

Musk and his coup team aren't really accountable to anyone but Trump, and have no direct legal authority. The way that they get things done is by threatening and steamrolling people, and gaining control of important functions (like the ability to put people on leave or fire them). All of this requires some amount of secrecy and chaos in order to pull off. If they were posting detailed plans on their website, it would make those plans harder to execute.

Nasrudith|1 year ago

Didn't they already do exactly that with Project 2025?

zzzeek|1 year ago

the plan is more specifically this right wing crypto idea called "the network state" - using technological means to bring down the Democratic state and replace it with a crypto-based oligarchy that serves big tech interests only:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwyl171lyewo

throw0101c|1 year ago

See perhaps "The bro-ligarchs have a vision for the new Trump term":

> All of these men see themselves as the heroes or protagonists in their own sci-fi saga. And a key part of being a “technological superman” — or ubermensch, as the German philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche would say — is that you’re above the law. Common-sense morality doesn’t apply to you because you’re a superior being on a superior mission. Thiel, it should be noted, is a big Nietzsche fan, though his is an extremely selective reading of the philosopher’s work.

> The ubermensch ideology helps explain the broligarchs’ disturbing gender politics. “The ‘bro’ part of broligarch is not incidental to this — it’s built on this idea that not only are these guys superior, they are superior because they’re guys,” Harrington said.

[…]

> The so-called network state is “a fancy name for tech authoritarianism,” journalist Gil Duran, who has spent the past year reporting on these building projects, told me. “The idea is to build power over the long term by controlling money, politics, technology, and land.”

* https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/395646/trump-inauguration...

Also maybe "Why big tech turned right":

* https://www.vox.com/politics/397525/trump-big-tech-musk-bezo...

General right-wing plan:

* https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c977njnvq2do

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025