This was fun and interesting to read, and as an example of a Gift To The Community [^0] I wish it was well preserved and updated with new examples, as the ones linked are down.
Oh wow. I was reading this site a year or two ago, looking for forgotten old web 1.0 ideas to implement in my website†, and I was impressed by its clean design for 2003 & surprised that so few URLs were broken - but also a bit annoyed by the statement that the book was abandoned and was not going to be updated.
Well. I guess he has a good reason to not update it.
† inspired by http://www.rdrop.com/~half/Creations/Writings/Web.patterns/f... , we've been adding 'modified' icons to new URLs. Aside from that, the big Web 1.0 UI feature I am missing is any good equivalent to 'breadcrumbs': https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breadcrumb_navigationhttp://www.rdrop.com/~half/Creations/Writings/Web.patterns/v... They work in the website's own use of it, because it has a strict categorical design where there is a 'book' nested in a domain etc, and the examples given obey categories. But I've struggled to come up with a good equivalent for Gwern.net, to help the reader visualize 'where' they are. Tags, for all their virtues, which are why they have largely superseded categories, do not give you any good spatial analogy. (There is an argument for breadcrumbs within pages, however, and we've been thinking about a kind of 'browsing history' section which shows you each link or snippet of text you interacted with in chronological order, which might help.) Some of them are better off forgotten, though. I think it's become clear that http://www.rdrop.com/~half/Creations/Writings/Web.patterns/c... weren't good ideas.
fabianholzer|1 year ago
So, who ever keeps Marks site up & running: thank you!
gwern|1 year ago
Well. I guess he has a good reason to not update it.
† inspired by http://www.rdrop.com/~half/Creations/Writings/Web.patterns/f... , we've been adding 'modified' icons to new URLs. Aside from that, the big Web 1.0 UI feature I am missing is any good equivalent to 'breadcrumbs': https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breadcrumb_navigation http://www.rdrop.com/~half/Creations/Writings/Web.patterns/v... They work in the website's own use of it, because it has a strict categorical design where there is a 'book' nested in a domain etc, and the examples given obey categories. But I've struggled to come up with a good equivalent for Gwern.net, to help the reader visualize 'where' they are. Tags, for all their virtues, which are why they have largely superseded categories, do not give you any good spatial analogy. (There is an argument for breadcrumbs within pages, however, and we've been thinking about a kind of 'browsing history' section which shows you each link or snippet of text you interacted with in chronological order, which might help.) Some of them are better off forgotten, though. I think it's become clear that http://www.rdrop.com/~half/Creations/Writings/Web.patterns/c... weren't good ideas.
capt_chiss|1 year ago