[pagutierrezn]

To make matters worse, this is not only "rehappening" in the US. It's global

[nirui]

As I understand it, this wave of US policy change is inspired by a combination of white supremacy and US exceptionalism. But rest of the world is effected by few different things, for example, xenophobia in the case of EU and UK, expansionism in Russia, zionism in Israel, nationalism in China (and Japan, really) etc. It looked the same if you stand far, but they're all different, so I wouldn't call it "global".

There is a documentary from Deutsche Welle titled "The rise of the ultra-right in the US": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrhREluLdBs. Maybe worth a watch if you want to see an "outside" perspective on this.

[pjc50]

The fear of foreigners or racial "others" is the common element. And some of the propaganda is common, too.

[imacomputertoo]

The right wing of the US is not driven by white supremacy. It's driven by a belief in a variety of mostly false grievances, about immigration, the economy, the wealth gap, etc. Those bogus beliefs are held by white and non white people.

Consider that Trump won almost 50% of Latino male voters. As a percentage of the vote, Trump did better with racial minorities and women in 2024 than 2020, and much better compared to 2016.

White supremacy is real and it has some effect in US politics, but it's not a driving force anymore. I say this as someone who has lived both in and outside the US. The outside perspective is not always better. Germans may be seeing the US through the lens of their own history.

[michaelhoney]

What's happening in the US is in a whole other league of fucked

[twixfel]

Yes the US is uniquely fucked, really. At least the previous global hegemon fought two world wars to lose its place. The US is basically committing geopolitical suicide at the top of its powers because of gender neutral toilets and the price of eggs. A rather pathetic country and people, sadly.

[blooalien]

What a way to utterly waste the likely last few generations of "civilized" humanity on Earth... :(

[whatever1]

Nobody really remembers, hence, the same mistakes will be made.

[hn_throwaway_99]

I'm curious if what is happening in the US and what has happened in Britain with Brexit actually ends up slowing some of these marches towards illiberalism in other places. Like when people are upset at the direction of a country or current policies, they may take a "throw the bums out" attitude even if the alternative is far worse. But perhaps they're looking at the complete shit show in the US and how unproductive Brexit was and are thinking "OK, maybe not like that..."

I mean, it sounds like Canada is more united than it's been in a long time in its shared opposition to Trump.

[CalRobert]

Unfortunately, one key difference is that Britain didn't have a leader who wanted to expand their territory.

Europe is already weak, economically and militarily. I don't know how long our votes will matter when we have a belligerent and powerful neighbour.

[littlestymaar]

In France at least, Brexit made the idea of leaving the EU obsolete in political discourse, both on the left and far right.

But at the same time French media just repeated the “it's a clumsy handwave from an autistic dude” narrative after Musk's Nazi salute so I'm not sure it will work this time.

[ZeroGravitas]

In the UK, the political party (which is a actually a privately owned company) owned by the guy who drove the initial wave of Brexit is apparently topping the polls now.

The only policy they talk about is getting rid of all the immigrants because that's what caused all the problems, not decades of right wing government culminating in Brexit.

But underdeath that is the usual US-style Turbo capitalism stuff like destroying the NHS and handing it over to American corporations.

[morkalork]

I don't think it changes anything on a base level for how humans behave en mass. Unfortunately it looks like we will always be susceptible to populism and propaganda. At best what you're seeing is a temporary inoculation against illibralism.

[pjc50]

Wait until you have the Liz Truss budget. That's going to be economic chaos.