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properpopper | 1 year ago

> He was from a rich family who gave him everything, including the best education. He had ample free time to be a kid. He was personally escorted to school on a horse and had private tutors on call.

> His family barely got money to eat most days. Cody had to work to help support his family but through struggle was still able to attend school. He had to do his homework on the bus. His life was full of hardship and out of necessity he did little else than work and study.

Cool narrative building, but this information should not matter for the employer, because that particular employer selects candidates based on grades - I see no issues with it

Your comment is also implies that a kid from a rich family should have higher grades, but it's flawed - who has more motivation to achieve something?

Also between "rich" and "poor" families there are a lot of kids from "medium" families, what about them?

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latexr|1 year ago

> but this information should not matter for the employer

Of course it should. And for society too. Because it shows that under very different adversities, the person with significant hurdles was able to reach the same effective level as someone with none. It shows that one of them can overcome problems, while the other you don’t know.

If one sprinter is able to sprint over a clear open field in 20 seconds, and another is able to sprint the same distance in the same time in a muddy swamp, are you really going to argue those are equivalent?

> Your comment is also implies that a kid from a rich family should have higher grades

No, what it says is that it’s easier to achieve a goal when obstacles are removed for you. The grades are a metaphor, it’s an analogy.

> who has more motivation to achieve something?

Motivation isn’t an infinite resource. Every hurdle is a new opportunity for someone to give up because they can’t take it anymore. In case it wasn’t clear, Cody ended up failing anyway.

> Also between "rich" and "poor" families there are a lot of kids from "medium" families, what about them?

Yes, what about them? I made an analogy in a short internet comment to illustrate an idea, no one would have read a dissertation filled with subjective and hard to parse minutiae.

pc86|1 year ago

At the risk of repeating another comment, the problem is that DEI proponents don't care about socio-economic status or family struggles, they care about race and whether or not you're from a "historically marginalized community" for certain specific definitions of "marginalized" and "historically."

If the rich kid was black and the poor kid was white, proponents of DEI would point to the poor kid getting hired as clear-cut evidence of systemic racism against the black kid.