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muaytimbo | 1 year ago

It's past time these institutions were audited. I had an NSF fellowship and was on numerous NIH grants during my PhD work (Chemist). All of them, even in 2013, had DEI language that made it clear if you were a white/chinese/indian male you were not going to be funded. The institutions, already, were self sabotaging, doling out tons of taxpayer money, not to the best ideas, but to labs that had a few women of various colors other than white working in them. It pushed me and almost all of the other chemists (who were generally white/chinese/indian males) in my class to leave the field either after our PhD or post-doc.

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stevenbedrick|1 year ago

I can only speak for my own experience, but this is 100% not what I have seen (as an NIH-funded white male PI, and one of many at my institution and in my field). I just submitted an R01 last week, and can firmly say that there is no "DEI" language in the grant application forms or in the program announcement; anybody who is interested can easily see the kinds of documents that are required in NIH grants: https://grants.nih.gov/grants-process/write-application/samp...

No "DEI" boogeymen in there.

jmcqk6|1 year ago

Wow so not a single white/chinese/indian male has been funded since 2013? For over a decade? That's an incredible claim. Literally.

user3939382|1 year ago

So sex and racial prejudice has to be 100% efficient to be wrong?

Facemelters|1 year ago

you know what they're talking about, don't play dumb

lbarron6868|1 year ago

This isn't an auditing. This is a gutting based on senseless and illegal procedures. You want to get rid of DEI, fine. That doesn't mean get rid of the whole agency. This is incredibly alarming.

ironhaven|1 year ago

Here is another perspective, there are many more deserving research proposals than there are grants. Even if they banned all minorities from grant funding there would still be many disgruntled and unfunded scientists languishing without grants.

l0t0b0r0s|1 year ago

I think the "many more deserving research proposals" more funding as well. So we should judge the proposals by merit, and not the immutable characteristic of the researcher. By the way, why should tax payers fund grants for foreign countries research and education?

insane_dreamer|1 year ago

I'm not disputing your personal experience, but I've worked on numerous science-related NIH grants over the past decade and the vast majority of performers were white (sometimes asian) males (myself included).

> The institutions, already, were self sabotaging, doling out tons of taxpayer money, not to the best ideas, but to labs that had a few women of various colors other than white working in them.

I'm calling this complete BS.

esalman|1 year ago

I am a male of Indian descent, my PI was white male and we collaborated with a number of Asian male PIs and postdocs. I was in PhD research starting in 2015. All of us were funded.

Quit the BS.

charintstr|1 year ago

This is an absolute trash take. I've been through the NIH grant process as a white male and there was absolutely 0 mention of diversity, DEI, or whatever other qualifying characteristic of my grant. It came totally down to the content of my proposal. You don't know what you're talking about

CamperBob2|1 year ago

This isn't an "audit." It's an extralegal raid.