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_qbxi | 1 year ago

Illegal acts should be called out, even if our government is failing to enforce the law. Otherwise it will become easy for the acts to get ignored entirely.

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jdross|1 year ago

It would be nice if anyone would state a law being violated. A lot of people seem to be making a lot of assumptions too about what DOGE/Elon are doing vs what the president or directors of the agencies (for instance) are doing

bagels|1 year ago

Here's some reading after a quick googling.

https://time.com/7212753/trump-elon-musk-federal-laws-legal-...

Definitely in uncharted territory, but these are some possible laws that have been violated:

Impoundment Control Act of 1974, Privacy Act of 1974, the Federal Information Security Modernization Act (FISMA), Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (CFAA), Internal Revenue Code’s Section 6103.

_qbxi|1 year ago

I do agree that citing specific laws is best. However, if the building is on fire, I want the alarm bells on immediately even if it's low specificity.

What sort of assumptions have you been seeing?

iamEAP|1 year ago

Unless you’re a member of congress or a civil servant in the executive branch, paying any attention to this is wasted energy.

We already saw this play out in his last term. Directing how laws are enforced is a function of the executive branch. Nothing will be done.

Your energy is better spent identifying and articulating the values you hold that these actions are an affront to and shouting that out.

_qbxi|1 year ago

At minimum, drawing people's attention to the ongoing issues can result in a different batch of congressional representatives in the future.

Politics doesn't always act on instant gratification.

reverendsteveii|1 year ago

This. Remember when he literally did a commercial for Goya products from the resolute desk? His justification was that they were being "cancelled" and that the law surrounding the white house endorsing products for political support was his to enforce or not and he was just not gonna enforce it.

intended|1 year ago

Sure. Remember this when people say that the dems constantly complain about the repubs, and that people are tired of hearing people say things are illegal.

My guess is that at this point, talk is cheap, and actions speak louder than words.

So saying the same thing, just a different language.

And no: I have zero clue what the actions would look like. Maybe suing the govt?