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SemioticStandrd | 1 year ago

This sentiment is so incomplete as to be utterly useless outside of a very narrow scope.

Good engineers are right a lot very specifically within their technical competency.

Simply saying "good engineers are right a lot" has pretty clearly resulted in a large group of people who think that because they're right a lot about things within their field, that quality of 'being right a lot' extends to things outside of their field, and that is terribly wrong as often as not. The hubris and entitlement that I've seen engendered in people who take this creed too seriously is really something to behold. It's part of what directly leads to the 'techbro' stereotype.

No, Kyle, just because you're right a lot about all things relating to Rust does NOT mean you know a fucking thing about economics, healthcare, or whatever the hell else it is you espouse your strongly held opinion on.

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lordmauve|1 year ago

I don't think that is incompatible at all. It's a restatement of the same thing:

If someone is right a lot they are likely not making assertions about things that they know nothing about.

If they are making assertions about a domain and those assertions are correct then that domain is one of their competencies.

"Utterly useless" is a bit extreme but it's a reasonable observation to say it doesn't have predictive power.

mncharity|1 year ago

I suggest people badly underestimate how very rapidly expertise falls of as one moves away from a specific tightly-scoped feedback-intensive area of skill. Ask a wizzy quantum chemist a protein chemistry question, and don't be surprised to get the answer of a grad or undergrad student. There's a news genre of "Harvard MBA's don't understand seasons!"-like stories - if someone last saw something years ago in middle school, don't be surprised now by a middle schooler's understanding. A person can both be a highly-regarded <model organism> researcher, and have gone rather nutter on <diet thing> that very isn't their research area.

Physicists are stereotypically famous for misjudging expertise decay. https://xkcd.com/793/ Some things, like deep intellectual humility, do seem to consistently transfer well between fields. Being "right, a lot", not so consistently.

SemioticStandrd|1 year ago

That’s never been my observation. Tech people are some of the most arrogant people I’ve encountered, often asserting things outside of their domain. The delusion that being right in one area makes them right in other areas is real.

It’s the whole circle jerk about STEM being the ultimate degree fields in university, while humanities and liberal arts are looked down upon and sneered at.

magicalhippo|1 year ago

I'm reminded of the quote "he knows everything, but that is also all he knows".