[kroltan]

If the time comes to discuss operating systems, I always suggest an exercise of downloading a Windows 11 Home ISO and installing it into a virtual machine, look at how much of it is installing an OS versus upselling into services using every dark pattern in the book. (With such hits as "the No button is hidden under a link-button called Learn More and only appears if you choose an advanced installation")

Once you're using it for >month, it's easy to see the BS as just an occasional inconvenience because saying yes is so much easier.

[Sophira]

Also "you literally can't install without a Microsoft account unless you know the magic incantation to open the command prompt in the installer (Shift+F10) and the command MS provided for some reason to allow you to bypass connecting to the Internet ('OOBE\BypassNRO')".