[lbruder]

Hi fellow yelling old man,

would it be OK for me to steal your analogy? It's great!

In the team I'm currently leading, we have made the same observation, with stuff getting more complicated without anything substantial to show for it. In a way we're having a harder time getting out features than twenty years ago, but somehow that's "progress".

As an experiment, I had one of my juniors rewrite a (admittedly small) frontend with Go templates and HTMX, and not only did they have a blast doing it, they were surprised at how simple everything suddenly was. Give that one a try, it's worth it!

That said, there are frontends with requirements that actually do need all that framework crap. Once you want 3D stuff that a user can move around with the mouse, you pretty much have no other choice. While those special cases are rare, people prefer to learn one framework and use it for every nail they see lying around instead of looking at all the other tools in their shed...

[caspper69]

I've played with JSX a couple of times but not HTMX, and it's been a while since I wrote any Go code (pre-generics, so I've got some reading to do).

I have been looking to slap together a small blog platform, and this sounds like a perfect setup. Thanks, I appreciate the tips.

And yes, I would be honored if you used my analogy! Hopefully it can give some frustrated devs a chuckle and brighten a small part of their day.

[martinsnow]

Htmx is terrible once you have to manage state that has to live in the frontend