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jonnycat | 1 year ago

I fully agree with the sentiment, and yet marvel at the apparent lack of alternatives for so many business models. I'm mildly surprised, for example, that micro-payments for web content are still not a (widespread) thing.

Consumers hate ads, but they hate paying for things even more apparently.

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keiferski|1 year ago

It's not really clear to me that consumers hate ads. It seems like more of a tech niche opinion; most people are perfectly fine with watching TV commercials (and look forward to them at the Super Bowl) and don't mind using ad-tier streaming plans. Ad blockers are used by a tiny, tiny percentage of total browser users. And so on.

somenameforme|1 year ago

Look at literally any poll on the topic - people hate ads universally, with advertisers not far behind. And ad blocker usage has skyrocketed. It's now up to ~30% of all internet users [1] with younger people starting to approach a majority. And it should go without saying that the only reason that's not near 100% of users is because most people don't know they exist and/or don't feel comfortable installing one.

[1] - https://backlinko.com/ad-blockers-users

danaris|1 year ago

Even ignoring the sibling comment debunking your "tiny, tiny percentage"...

There's a huge difference between extremely-high-production-value Superbowl ads and regular TV ads.

There's another huge difference between regular TV ads and some of the ads you can get on YouTube (example: someone I follow decided, For Scienceā„¢, to actually watch the entirety of a 5-hour ad they got on YouTube for...I think it was one of the Lego Movies? It consisted entirely of an endless repetition of the same 3-minute-ish song).

There's also a huge difference between what people are willing to tolerate in order to reduce some of the often-absurd financial burden they're being put under, and what people actually like, or are genuinely content with.

"Revealed preference" theory is a bunch of motivated reasoning.

barrkel|1 year ago

One problem is transaction costs; you need aggregators to sit in the middle, adding up the people paying and to be paid out. Structurally, aggregators are then in a position to extract rents. Which they will do, sooner or later.

There are of course other problems, fraud, money laundering and the like, which extract taxes, and and a whole patchwork quilt of national regulations, which extracts a lot more.

Things like crypto look, feel and smell like money laundering. I don't think there's a technical solution here. The problems are social and regulatory.

nertirs1|1 year ago

Yep, it is mind boggling. Most people spend more on a single meal than on web content they consume in a single year.

zild3d|1 year ago

If there was a simple way to get the food for free, a lot of people would stop paying for meals