[monkburger]

Similarly rare is the "traditional" EDS phenotype with stretchy skin and hypermobile joints. Usually seeing them for shoulder dislocations or other orthopedic injuries.

By far the most common (and massively increased over the past few years) is the crowd that attracts all the eye rolls. These are almost exclusively women, usually white, age 16-35, presenting with a constellation of nonspecific chronic complaints including myalgias/arthralgias, fatigue, GI symptoms, etc. None of them have stretchy skin or abnormally hypermobile joints. Very high rate of fibromyalgia/POTS/CFS in this group. They're usually coming to the ED for diffuse pains, dizziness, or something else I really can't fix. Maybe there is some underlying organic disorder we haven't sorted out yet, maybe these are somatic manifestations of untreated anxiety/depression.

One thing about the hEDS diagnosis is the explosion of self-dx from social media (TikTok) which makes physicians cringe.

There's no good genetic test, and even if there was there is not much to be done other than supportive measures.

[cjbgkagh]

I believe that you're a doctor because your response is exactly typical for a doctor. Have you considered for a second that all these people are right and that you might be wrong? I am similarly self diagnosed. 30 years of not being able to get a diagnosis despite having hypermobility so severe I can subluxate either shoulder on demand, I also had all of those other issues you mention - it's a cluster for a reason.

Hear me out, what if hEDS was 1/50 and not 1/50K or 1/15K or 1/5K or 1/500 or whatever the current literature has it at - which as a data science person is some rather large order of magnitude error bars for a figure. The 1/50 would include those diagnosed with generalized joint hypermobility, this would allow for the more common TNXB SNPs to be causal for hEDS.

And yeah, I've been told by many doctors that it's not worth even testing for because there is no treatment. Also consider the second order effects of not testing - how would you validate the original % numbers if people keep being talked out of getting tested, would subsequent surveys of population include those being talked out of the test? It's a good thing I don't rely on people who can't detect a condition to treat the condition. It is indeed very treatable - the dysautonomia aspect especially so.

[monkburger]

There is clearly an entity of hEDS with a yet-to-be-discovered gene. However, the clinical criteria are not very specific and the diagnosis has been given out both for people who don’t fit the criteria and for people who do but are unlikely to have the originally intended underlying disease process. This is driven by several factors including physicians who aren’t strict about diagnosis, supplement companies that use this to push whatever they are peddling, and patients who want a diagnosis for the sake of having one or other reasons mentioned here.

[LeafItAlone]

>It is indeed very treatable - the dysautonomia aspect especially so.

What is the treatment for the condition itself? As far as I can tell, the recommended options treat the symptoms, but not the conditions.

It was suggested that a family member of mine has EDS, but if they do, it’s not acute and there would really be nothing to do. The doctor even suggested getting tested for it, but it would not be covered so they didn’t do it.