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barumrho | 1 year ago

Shouldn't this problem self-regulate, though? Ultimately, investors mainly care about the returns and if you can get better returns elsewhere due to these fees, they will switch.

If they can charge large amount of fees and still stay competitive, then good on them, right?

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jfengel|1 year ago

There's a lot of friction. You won't switch based on one year, which would just leave you chasing last year's lucky winner (who will likely revert to the median next year). It takes a long time to realize that your hedge fund is a loser.

The whole point of a hedge fund is for you to let someone else do the worrying. So the market is decidedly inefficient.

chii|1 year ago

> It takes a long time to realize that your hedge fund is a loser.

it's been many decades since the existence of statistical analysis of hedge funds (as an aggregate) that demonstrates their lack of edge over benchmark passive index funds.

Some hedge funds would still out-perform. Most don't, and those who do tend to charge fees up to their level of edge, and leave only index-benchmark returns for their investors.

If you don't heed this evidence now, you deserve to lose money to these funds.

comboy|1 year ago

It's kind of like buying lottery tickets from a vendor and when you win, but he steals the winnings, you switch to another one.

Except, also, you don't actually ever see the tickets.

k-i-r-t-h-i|1 year ago

> Ultimately, investors mainly care about the returns

Not quite. It also matters how and when returns are generated. Some vol funds make 1–3% a year on average, but they still manage billions because when markets crash, they (presumably) crush it — and that’s when investors need them the most

bushbaba|1 year ago

Depends on if there’s capital gains tax when leaving the firm.

financetechbro|1 year ago

Perhaps. But HF capital is usually locked down for a few years. So there is some friction to switching

ptero|1 year ago

True, but I believe (although last explored this question a long time ago) that the majority of the capital is not locked.