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thamer | 1 year ago

It took a few tries, but I got Wolfram Alpha to compute its velocity compared to the speed of light[1].

I started with:

    sqrt(1-((1/(1+120 PeV / (neutrino mass * c^2)))^2))
but it simply said "data not available". So I changed:

    120 PeV to 120e15 * 1.602176634e-19 kg m^2 s^-2
    neutrino mass to 1.25e-37kg
    speed of light to 299792458 m/s
and finally it gave a numeric result:

    0.999999999999999999999999999999999999829277971
(that's 36 nines in a row). Pasting it in Google says the value is "1", which is… not far off.

If you want details about the way this is calculated, I dug up the formula from an article I'd written about particle velocities in the LHC, back in 2008[2]. For comparison, their 7 TeV protons were going at 0.999999991 × c.

[1] https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=sqrt%281-%28%281%2F%281...

[2] https://log.kv.io/post/2008/09/12/lhc-how-fast-do-these-prot...

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davrosthedalek|1 year ago

We don't know the neutrino's masses, so this is a lower limit for v (since the mass you used is an upper limit)

dr_dshiv|1 year ago

That’s fast! But for how much energy? For comparison, the total energy from this one particle (0.0192 joules) is equivalent to keeping a 50 mW LED lit for a third of a second.

wd776g5|1 year ago

I can see it came from your source but why is the neutrino mass specified in kg instead of g? why not 1.25e-34g?

thamer|1 year ago

The kilogram is the base unit of mass in the International System of Units (SI): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SI_base_unit

Time is in seconds, length in meters, temperature in kelvin, etc. A unit of energy like a joule is then defined using these base units, so 1 joule is 1⋅kg⋅m^2⋅s^-2.

l33tman|1 year ago

In particle physics you just use GeV (with varying powers) for most parameters :)