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dannyr | 1 year ago

How will local/state prosecute it?

The crimes are on the federal level and pretty sure they'll receive pardons.

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JumpCrisscross|1 year ago

> How will local/state prosecute it?

Lots of state laws around privacy and tort that wouldn’t gain supremacy if a federal court found the DOGE bros didn’t act lawfully. Pardons prevent them from being punished for that lawlessness by the U.S. But it doesn’t stop state courts from finding adversely.

f38zf5vdt|1 year ago

I think maybe the user is implying that a civil war will break out. I started reading about the original American Civil War after recent events. The lead up to that was protracted. As long as some states begin assembling militias now and unify, it's probable they will be able to mount an attack against the Federal government as happened back then.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_events_leading_to_...

s1artibartfast|1 year ago

The 1800s for a very different time when the national army essentially didn't exist. And probably isn't a very good model for what a modern national breakup looks like.

Brexit would be the best case, although most objections to the federal government would be resolved with a reduced size and scope

JumpCrisscross|1 year ago

> maybe the user is implying that a civil war will break out

I’m not. Short of a decapitation strike in which MAGA and Musk are taken out in a night of long knives, which would itself be more destabilising to our republic than anything they’ve done, there is little to play for a military conflict à la the Civil War in a nuclear state. If we’re going to see a civil war, it wouldn’t be states vs U.S. but some compartment of the U.S. claiming legitimate power while another denies it, e.g. the military deposing Trump or him refusing to step down after impeachment and conviction or an electoral loss.