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rkapsoro | 1 year ago

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craftsman|1 year ago

The President can certainly do things that are both legal and Constitutional. If the team is, as you say, auditing government spending there is probably no debate. The question before us is: are they doing that, and only that? To that question the answer appears to be 'no'. To the extent that they are doing more than auditing, there are serious legal and Constitutional questions. And these questions cannot simply be brushed aside by asserting 'most people voted for this'.

Xunjin|1 year ago

Well, there are checks and balances, if I understand correctly, all these changes are being done by executive order which needs to be approved by congress and is passive of being questioned by the justice system.

Let's not forget that the Vice-President did post a tweet with the literally saying:

“Judges aren't allowed to control the executive's legitimate power.”[0]

0. https://x.com/JDVance/status/1888607143030391287

That goes against the entire idea of the USA Democracy.

cowfriend|1 year ago

pro tip: an insider action does count as a cyberattack. Your first argument is nonsensical.

re: mandate to audit government. If this was a serious audit, then DOGE would have put serious data privacy controls in place.

An audit without proper data protection IS a cyberattack; an exfiltration of protected data.

jblich|1 year ago

There isn't a spec of transparency from the efforts of DOGE, no evidence presented from them about fraud they're finding. Just initiatives they don't believe in or like.

intended|1 year ago

How did the USDS have the power to recover FEMA money sent to NY? Just to think of a single headline in the past 24 hours.

Not to mention barring entry to members of congress in federal buildings.

Or to accessing secure infrastructure without passing a security check? Or following any number of security policies that have been developed by America.

EnergyAmy|1 year ago

Did the platform include tidbits like "DOGE will trust sensitive personal information of millions of Americans to lackwits that got already fired for leaking personal information"?

> If the President can't execute his mandate [..]

"Executing his mandate" doesn't mean "doing a whole bunch of dumb shit while ignoring the rule of law and becoming a puppet to an unelected piece of human garbage".