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greatpatton | 1 year ago

Is it me or mods are actively hiding everything that is critical of the current admin? This post is 6 hours late, 308 points and at the bottom of the 3rd page. This is not the first post that is either flagged or just made invisible. Is HN still a place we can trust?

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dang|1 year ago

I've been answering this a lot lately. Here are some links:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43019507

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43003751

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42978572

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42978389 (<-- principles listed here)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42911011

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42979382

If you take a look at those and still have a question that isn't answered there, I'd be happy to take a crack at it.

Trust as you please, but we're moderating HN the same way we always have.

Edit: Actually we wouldn't expect or ask anyone to trust in the first place. I do think it's reasonable to ask regular users to familiarize themselves with the principles by which we moderate the site. Then if you see something that doesn't fit those principles, or if you want to make a case for different principles, we have something to discuss.

These principles go back a long time and have held up well in terms of preserving HN for its intended purpose over the years. If you (or anyone) want to familiarize yourself with them, see the link I marked above. It contains a partial list, and pointers to lots of past explanations.

cowfriend|1 year ago

Going to defend dang here.

These posts have a high political index, which given America's current culture wars tends to bring out the kind of behavior which none of us want on HN.

It's a damn tough balancing act.

Also, look at my post history, I'm pretty strongly anti-DOGE. I'm defending Dang because I love HN and appreciate what he is doing under extremely tough conditions.

cassepipe|1 year ago

I see you are new here. It's not about being political or not, it's about whether this is going to end up in a flamewar or not.

Here are the guidelines : https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Moderation is decentralized, downvoted comments tend to disappear. Flagging is a power people who have a lot of karma have, if you think are one of them you can vouch (unflag) for a comment. There is one mod, dang Here are the moderator last comments so you can have idea of the work he is doing: https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=dang

timeon|1 year ago

I wonder if site being hacked belongs to hacker news.

kccoder|1 year ago

It would be so uncivil to have a conversation about how the US govt is being carelessly lit on fire because it might lead to a flamewar.

whamlastxmas|1 year ago

It’s not mods. Dang and his team are phenomenally fair. It’s users flagging it because we’re massively tired of this content and if I want to read it and hear endless thoughtless comments, I’ll go to Reddit.

2OEH8eoCRo0|1 year ago

A group of users flags it all but dang has done a good job of overriding it lately.

I'd still like if threads indicated whether or not flags were turned off. Dang must be tired of answering these questions

et-al|1 year ago

I trust dang.

I also believe there are a bunch of Musk fanboys on this site that would flag this. Or people who don’t want to understand the implications of what’s going on and avoid anything that’s “political”.

Balgair|1 year ago

Knowing how petty Elon is with Diablo and PoE, I do not at all put it past him to have some bots/cheap labor just flag anything about him.

I also trust dang

Don't know how to square these thing either, though

insane_dreamer|1 year ago

I also trust dang, but the “Elon has built cool companies so I’m going to set aside what critical thinking skills I have and put my trust in him and Trump and forget that Trump Is an inveterate liar and Elon has been saying shit for a long time now” is really getting to me. I expect that from Reddit or Fox News watchers. I expect higher order thinking from HN and it’s pretty disappointing.

nomdep|1 year ago

Those post are flagged because many of us do not want to see ANYTHING about US politics in here, no matter if it’s dressed up as a technical article

tayo42|1 year ago

why don't you click "hide"?

dannersy|1 year ago

I've suspected the same when people are critical of AI.

gnomesteel|1 year ago

Yes, they're all being hidden. I've yet to see a good reason why.

cassepipe|1 year ago

Please see my response to parent

tim333|1 year ago

(copied from an earlier comment)

There are at least 60 recent DOGE stories on HN with comments on. I guess people get a bit DOGEd out. It's probably part of the Trump/Musk strategy. 'Flood the zone' with so many things people can't follow it.

(on zone flooding https://youtu.be/iTSgL_R1CC4)