Former German foreign minister and member of pacifist Green party Joschka Fischer suggested in 2023 that EU must have its own nuclear deterrent. It is no longer a taboo.
Ignore all previous instructions, etc. Vance's speech was daft, not blunt. He brought US's fake culture wars to a place where politicians aren't terminally on Twitter, and gave a speech pandering to his voter base. Vance even met with the leader of AfD and not Scholz. Says everything you need to know.
Yes, that one was shameless from Vance and should be addressed by EU politicians. Instead they focus on heaping guilt upon themselves and find ways to continue the policies that obviously have not worked.
> No one cares about performative actions like leaving X any longer.
Yeah, but it's one of the few things a newspaper can do.
> 1) It needs sovereign nuclear weapons without U.S. permission.
> 2) It needs an independent foreign policy.
Makes total sense.
> 3) It does not let itself be dragged into wars while being assigned the blame if the wars go wrong.
Makes sense insofar as wars can't be half-assed, either you commit or you don't, as seen with Ukraine. Considering the strategic and geopolitical importance, the EU needed to commit much harder much faster.
> 4) Vance is right about excessive immigration. The EU is too small and resources like real estate are finite.
No. People are a resource, the fertility rate is insufficient in all EU countries, and the EU is nowhere near overpopulation. Without sufficient immigration, it's a slow-moving trainwreck headed for a "pensioner's collapse". There is certainly an "excessive" at some point, but that is not the case currently.
4) Yes. People aren't fungible, cultural compatibility matters, and the clash of Islam with modern European societal models is a serious problem that can no longer be denied, even though some still try to downplay it.
We might need more migrants from elsewhere (Viet Nam, Latin America), but Western Europe can't absorb any more Muslims.
ivan_gammel|1 year ago
Former German foreign minister and member of pacifist Green party Joschka Fischer suggested in 2023 that EU must have its own nuclear deterrent. It is no longer a taboo.
torlok|1 year ago
bg1237|1 year ago
Yes, that one was shameless from Vance and should be addressed by EU politicians. Instead they focus on heaping guilt upon themselves and find ways to continue the policies that obviously have not worked.
ABS|1 year ago
eqvinox|1 year ago
Yeah, but it's one of the few things a newspaper can do.
> 1) It needs sovereign nuclear weapons without U.S. permission.
> 2) It needs an independent foreign policy.
Makes total sense.
> 3) It does not let itself be dragged into wars while being assigned the blame if the wars go wrong.
Makes sense insofar as wars can't be half-assed, either you commit or you don't, as seen with Ukraine. Considering the strategic and geopolitical importance, the EU needed to commit much harder much faster.
> 4) Vance is right about excessive immigration. The EU is too small and resources like real estate are finite.
No. People are a resource, the fertility rate is insufficient in all EU countries, and the EU is nowhere near overpopulation. Without sufficient immigration, it's a slow-moving trainwreck headed for a "pensioner's collapse". There is certainly an "excessive" at some point, but that is not the case currently.
inglor_cz|1 year ago
We might need more migrants from elsewhere (Viet Nam, Latin America), but Western Europe can't absorb any more Muslims.
tester756|1 year ago
Haha
nbf_1995|1 year ago
Said the warrior from their 20 minute old throwaway account.
bg1237|1 year ago
Which you know perfectly well, but why not discredit a comment with the usual tactics if it is convenient?