[seamossfet]

Same! I run the engineering department for a medium sized software consultancy, we're on contract with several large enterprises. In terms of output, we run circles around their internal delivery teams. Not because our engineers are better than them, we've just fully embraced shape up as our development process.

This has also let us bid on projects as fixed rate instead of T&M since we budget time as appetite instead of how long we think something will take to build.

There are still some hurdles we have to overcome, like we can still run into unexpected things that we didn't know about during the betting process, but deep behind the philosophy of Shape Up it feels like something that translates extremely well to more creative R&D development projects like what we do.