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Broligarchy does not build civilization

30 points| saevarom | 1 year ago |not-a-tech-bro.ghost.io

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icoder|1 year ago

As a Western Europe based, peace loving, tolerant, introvert software dev I'm highly worried by what's happening in the world but at the same time feel totally powerless (I admit to be - for now - selfish enough to not be willing to jeopardise my family and career above this worry).

The frustrating thing is that there must be so many 'of us' and I can't help but think 'we' should organize. Not sure if this (blog) could be a starting point for that?

pjc50|1 year ago

Organize locally.

I cannot stress this enough: for those of us not in the US, do not get sucked into the circus, focus on addressing the same forces locally where you can more easily make a difference.

moconnor|1 year ago

The post doesn't make specific claims but as a non-American observer (and without taking a position here) the major changes planned/in progress seem to be DOGE, deportations and tariffs. The proponents claim all of these are for the benefit of working-class Americans and not the elites.

Without addressing that it's hard to see what this post actually adds to the conversation. It makes vague assertions against parties unnamed that Business is not the Way to Run a Civilisation. Those that see a clear and urgent need to reduce spending, immigration and globalisation will not be moved one iota by this because it will not make sense to them. They believe they are already saving civilisation.

red-iron-pine|1 year ago

the major changes planned by DOGE are gutting the US FedGov in ways that allow the hyper-wealthy access to everything without restraint. e.g. hitting the Dept of Tresury, annihilating all of the Inspector General positions, removing oversight and regulatory groups, etc.

some of those hyper-wealthy happen to be the Russian president + Chinese + Israeli + Saudi, et al, and would love to see NATO split apart and the US economy sputter. They are, arguably, the strongest of the hyper-wealthy vying for influence but not the only ones, though they are likely the most successful.

deportations and tariffs exist to serve as a distraction, or as a way to further the above to points.

baxtr|1 year ago

I think the pattern leading up to this situation anywhere in the world is the accumulation of power.

A society that is able to spread power as much as possible is more resilient in the long run.

How to maintain a wide spread dispersion of power? I have no idea.

icoder|1 year ago

My theory is that (in current society) this starts with spreading money. That's not trivial either but it feels at least a bit more tangible to me.

mamonster|1 year ago

> It may feel like we have more freedom if some of us are successful. But that's a myopic view. We are not free. It is more like an addiction. Genuine freedom can happen only if it is available to everyone.

>If we truly are to be a society of people who live on this planet together – a civilization - we must take care of each other.

Sublimated trotskyism on full display.

relaxing|1 year ago

That has nothing to do with Trotskyism. It’s not even a Marxist view.

advael|1 year ago

I'm not even really seeing the short term gains here. It seems like despite making grandiose claims, the administration and the "broligarchs" are relying on cheap political wins ("owning the libs/woke") to placate their base in place of even pretending to accomplish anything that helps their constituents. This honestly surprised me. I'm not a fan of the MAGA set but I genuinely expected there to be some upsides here and not just an immediate private equity style looting frenzy

pjc50|1 year ago

The short term gains are things like $TRUMP bringing in a huge amount of money for insiders. The long term gains are things like firing the FEC, enabling erosion of voter rights.

The supporters aren't really in this for the money, they're in it for the blood. I don't know if that will change once some crisis forces gas prices up.

icoder|1 year ago

I read that as a preemptive counter against any argument involving upsides; even if they are there (possibly only for or in the eyes of some of the beholders), the division and abuse of power are a(n immediate) problem (and that's putting it lightly).

moconnor|1 year ago

You don't believe their stated assertions that e.g. they are genuinely disturbed by the size of public borrowing and the growing debt and are taking what they see as desperate measures?

maxglute|1 year ago

Most of human history has entirely been driven by broligarcy.

smitty1e|1 year ago

The reads like some AI broth broken out by Brosidon, King of the Brocean.

throwjrjtiri|1 year ago

It would be nice to declassify vaccination trials data. Perhaps this "broligarchy" could take a spin on them. Old guards and their "zero evidence of lab leak" is very old.