[shmobot]

Just be careful when using analogies. The massive ship named USSR sank in a matter of months.

[alephnerd]

> The massive ship named USSR sank in a matter of months

There was a decade of dysfunction and ossification before the USSR collapsed within a couple months

A decade of low oil prices (affecting exports), high defense spending (increasing deficit), societal unrest due to the resurgence of nationalism, and slowing productivity all happened quietly over the 1980s before catalyzing into collapse.

[pjc50]

> decade of low oil prices (affecting exports), high defense spending (increasing deficit), societal unrest due to the resurgence of nationalism, and slowing productivity

Good thing the US hasn't .. oh.

(the oil price is actually OK as is the trade balance, so far, but social cohesion is fraying and people are always complaining about productivity)

[shmobot]

Sure, you can tell now when looking back. But at the time, it tremendously surprised everyone, both inside and outside.

The country could have continued like this for years, if not decades, were it not for a few men and coincidental events.

[_DeadFred_]

US productivity is going into things like un-avoidable advertisements from your new Jeep when you come to a stop, embedding dark patterns for everything, and spending all R&D on a tool to replace all human workers. A nation can totally be held together heathily under today's 'productivity'.

[kccoder]

Many of these things have been happening in the US for the better part of a decade (or longer).

Did the USSR have an entire administration rapidly and deliberately tearing down their government, or was it more of the cracks in the foundation finally giving out?

Just because the former took a decade doesn't mean that this will require the same amount of time.

[occz]

I guess it could be argued that it had been in the process of sinking for a longer time, but I don't know enough about the history of the USSR to assert that being the case

[bambax]

But that's exactly my point. Nothing happens for decades (apparently!) and then it all crashes in minutes.

[Aeolun]

I honestly prefer that outcome. At least that’d be a reset instead of this infinite downward cycle.

[shmobot]

Such resets are sometimes followed by civil wars, economy crashes style "there is no food for tomorrow" and a generational trauma. As the one who has been through it, be careful what you wish for.

[ben_w]

> I honestly prefer that outcome. At least that’d be a reset instead of this infinite downward cycle.

If the USA gets a repeat of the USSR collapse, you're looking at an independent Texas and California (and perhaps Hawaii?) within a few years, 50% GDP loss, proper hyperinflation, infighting over the nuclear arsenal being under federal authority or the authority of whichever state it happened to be physically in at the time, and a 6-7 year reduction in life expectancy.