[dagenleg]

At least in France, where they have PhDs which last only 3 years, a years of PhD would cost ~45K EUR in gross salary (granted the student gets around half of that after tax), then let's say ~10K travel and consumables costs, then add up the inevitable 20% overhead costs and now you're looking at around 200K for the shortest possible frugal 3 year PhD.

[rhubarbtree]

At least in the UK, overheads are usually over 100%.

[dagenleg]

This sounds like quite an outlandish figure, could you please elaborate? For example, an ERC grant would allow for a maximum of 25% of the so called "indirect costs", that is, one fourths of all the the direct costs (gross salaries, materiel, travel, etc) gets paid as a lump sum, and this usually goes to the institution. How do you end up with over 100% overheads?

[p-a_58213]

....at best :( - more in certain universities.

[j-krieger]

I agree, in Germany companies PhD funding seems to be between 200 and 300k.

[ta12653421]

Show me any source of a German company funding a PhD role with 200.000 EUR or 300.000 EUR salary

Sorry, this is just not true