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vonmoltke | 1 year ago

I spent the first 9.5 years of my career at a large defense contractor. We never had free coffee.

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sitkack|1 year ago

Just one person taking a coffee break to go get coffee obviates any savings. The free coffee isn't there for the staff, it is there to save the org money.

selectodude|1 year ago

The federal government is so worried about the appearance of spending excess taxpayer money that employees set up water clubs and coffee clubs where the employees all chip in for a water cooler and a coffee machine every month.

vonmoltke|1 year ago

So, this particular contractor was big into efficiency and cost savings, to the point that we were all required to do a project where we made something more efficient and documented how much money we saved in doing so. The whole thing was mostly bullshit, but one of the interesting things I learned by doing it was that saving engineering time was essentially $0, because from the company's perspective we were all salaried, and as long as the time we were saving was charged to the same contract we would be charging our other work to, it didn't matter.

From that perspective, which I do not agree with, the cost of coffee breaks was also $0, while the cost of providing it was not, so no coffee. On one program I was on we at least managed to get facilities to install a commercial Bunn machine for us, but we were still responsible for buying all the supplies.

rodgerd|1 year ago

"We need you in the office for CoLlAboRaTIon." "OK, we'll have coffee after our morning standup." "Absolutely not."

wooger|1 year ago

And coffee itself is chiefly a productivity aid, to benefit the business.